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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Flektagon 35/2,4 |
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estudleon wrote:
Here are two samples of the flekt 35/2,4. At f/8, Iso 100, m42 camera.
I can't decide between the ZCJ 35 and 50. Both pics, Flekt.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Old thread but can't think of anywhere else to post my question:-
I've used a M42 35mm f2.4 Flek many years ago and found it very sharp and thought I'd use it again and without going into my story it's unusable now. Since then have bought Canon fdn 35 f2.8, Hexanon 40mm, loads of 28mms, 24mms, 20mm...lenses so don't use a 35mm lens much.
Well my question is:- what have I missed in not using the 35mm flek when compared to say a Canon fdn 35mm f2.8 or Hexanon 40mm or any other 35mm lenses from different makes, does the flek have some "magic" or is it just another sharp lens? _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Yes, it is a sharp lens as we would expect from Zeiss.
It does also display some 3D pop on occasions.
There are lots of great 35mm lenses of course and the Flek is not alone in its characteristics.
Mine is in PB mount so I use it when I am using other PB mount lenses and have just the one adapter.
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fujicorry
Joined: 01 Sep 2017 Posts: 85 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:38 am Post subject: |
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fujicorry wrote:
I've the 35mm 2.8 version- it's sharp at 5.6- 8 but not much contrast.
This version 2.4 is very good, maybe how much a modern lens. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
The Flek 35 does have a closer than average MFD, it's half the distance of many other lenses which can give you some unique perspectives.
Most 35mm FL lenses range in the .3 to .4 meter MFD range, few focus down to .2 meters, some Flek 35's have a shorter than .18 meters MFD. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:01 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
fujicorry wrote: |
I've the 35mm 2.8 version- it's sharp at 5.6- 8 but not much contrast.
This version 2.4 is very good, maybe how much a modern lens. |
Yes, I had the same experience with the 35mm f2.8 Flektogon as well.
The 35mm f2.4 is a much better lens I think
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:23 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Good sharpness, contrast and rendering, good bokeh. Aperture bit wider than most and still sharp wide open. Close focussing is a bonus. It's really a very well rounded lens. (until Steve show us his corner house at F2.4, don't test it Steve) _________________ pentaxian |
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vivaldibow
Joined: 23 Jun 2018 Posts: 837
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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vivaldibow wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
Good sharpness, contrast and rendering, good bokeh. Aperture bit wider than most and still sharp wide open. Close focussing is a bonus. It's really a very well rounded lens. (until Steve show us his corner house at F2.4, don't test it Steve) |
Not until very recently did I realize what Steven tested is extreme corners. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well guys we know the flek was a VG lens but it seems from posts that there were no other 35mm made that could match it for its qualities...but would have thought Nikon, Minolta, Canon etc would have examined the optics and produced something similar OR one explanation could be that Nikon etc realised when 28mms become more common that people were switching to that, so the designers concentrated more on the optics for those (28mms). _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:19 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
28mm was together with 135mm the first second or third lens people would get. So many are very cheaply made for the consumer market. Camera makers still made excellent 35's but not many people were buying them. Most mayor brand 35mm's brighter than F2.8 will fetch prices at least as high as the Flektogon. The Flek is partly legendary because it used to be cheaper than all of those and at least as good. _________________ pentaxian |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:24 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I have lots of lenses between 24 and 40 mm too, like Lightshow said, it has short MFD which is made it sometimes being called hidden macro lens.
I always used it for close objects, food, still life, macro etc. I think it's the best part of it compared to other lenses. despite colors andrendering also good. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
28mm was together with 135mm the first second or third lens people would get. So many are very cheaply made for the consumer market. . |
Cheaply made? erm worse than the extra lenses i.e. flek and 135mm sonnar when bought at the same time with the Praktica MTL3 camera ........ _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Silly question really, no lens has 'magic' it's all down to the person using it.
I've seen amazing photos taken with ancient uncoated triplets and terrible photos taken with the latest state of the art multi-thousands of dollars lenses.
and don't get me started on the pointlessness of squinting at the extreme corners of lenses shot wide open, it's just stupid. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Silly question really, no lens has 'magic' it's all down to the person using it.
I've seen amazing photos taken with ancient uncoated triplets and terrible photos taken with the latest state of the art multi-thousands of dollars lenses.
and don't get me started on the pointlessness of squinting at the extreme corners of lenses shot wide open, it's just stupid. |
So as I mentioned:- the Flek is just another sharp lens. But people pay silly prices for it _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
No, you can buy one cheap, I have three, didn't pay more than 30ukp for any of them and they are all in very nice condition and work perfectly. I see them going for under 50ukp all the time on ebay and considering how good it is, that's a real bargain.
There is a lot more to a lens than sharpness BTW. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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