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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
eddieitman wrote: |
OK here goes my List
Number 1 Zenitar 50mm F1.7 Pure Magic just renders so well even wide open
Number 2 Chinon 55mm F1.7 For it's Unique Monet style painting
Number 3 Auto Takumar F2.2 the 1st great rendering 3d almost and warm
Number 4 Minolta MD 50mm F1.4 Just a great lens color, sharpness etc
Number 5 Konica 58mm F1.4 Another great lens, color, and sharpness wide open and 3d pop
Number 6 Pancolar 50mm F1.8 Great Lens lovely tones and rendering with zeiss pop
Number 7 Pentax 50mm F1.7 great contrast and sharp wide open
Number 8 Yashica ML 50mm F1.7 every bit as good as the zeiss, almost but 1/5th the price
Number 9 Helios 44 everybody must own this, its great for the money
But if i can only have one the Zenitar |
I think you meant Konica 57mm F1.4 _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
/My bad yes 57mm so many damn lenses i lose track lol _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5999 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
So glad that folks are realising that this is not another "what is the best standard lens" type of thread.
Some lenses have a quality about them that endears them to us for one reason or another.
It is this characteristic that makes them a must have
A very interesting list
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
The macro-takumar 4/50 such a nice lens or any specialist macro lens, they open up a whole new world,and they are just a useful lens to have.I really have to thank the guys on this forum for encouraging me to buy it,many years ago now _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Just to demonstrate the magic in the Zenitar here is a pic i shot wide open by accident (did not notice the lens had gone to auto from manual) but for wide open it captures light in a magical way. _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
OMG......I've just looked down my updated list and counted 49 lenses in that range! Some are lenses I have a few of, the common 50's that came with the cameras. So, after much thought, I think these are my favourites.
For sharpness, the Rollei Planar 50 / 1.8. Closely followed by the Rokkor 50 / 1.4
For colour, the Rokkor 50 / 1.4 or the Zuiko 50 / 1.4 - which is also a delight to use.
Best all rounder? the Rokkor wins, with the Zuiko, Canon 1.8 and Pentax 1.7 fighting for a place in the camera bag.
But....they also fight with the Chinon 50 / 1.7 which surprises and pleases me when I use it, and any of the Helios which are never far away from the camera bag.
Rokkor 45 / 2 ? mmmm, I like it a lot but it frustrates me. I get some excellent results from it, and some rubbish. I think it's me though, not the lens.
If I'm feeling like a challenge, then I use the CZJ Tessar. I love the center sharpness and fall off towards the edges. But I have to remember to think about that as I use it.
I like the Industar as well, it has a special quality about it.
I can't get on with the Fujinon 55 / 2.2, there is sharpness, there are nice colours. I just can't get consistency from it. Pretty much the same with my Pentacon's - and I love the Pentacon 30 _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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eeec
Joined: 16 Jun 2013 Posts: 45 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:29 am Post subject: |
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eeec wrote:
So many lovely 50s
The one I would never let go of is the Canon FD 50mm f/1.4 - such a classic rendering with perfect colours that you know it came from a legacy lens, but it's all so smooth and professional that it matches anything out there from any era.
The other one everyone should own somewhere in their kit would be the Helios 44-3. Stuffed with charm and unique character. The preset aperture is a joy to use and makes me wonder why companies ever stopped making such lenses.
Maybe I'd also make mention of the Volna-9. Stopped down a little bit and you get the unique bokeh stars... it's a lovely macro performer. |
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mzzyhmd
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 99 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:37 am Post subject: |
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mzzyhmd wrote:
From my very little experience I'd suggest Pancolar 50/1.8. Super duper lens IMHO
_________________ Nex 6: Sony 16/2.8|| Vivitar Komine 24/2|| Sigma 30/2.8|| Rokinon 35/1.4|| Jupiter 8||Helios 53/1.8|| Minolta Rokkor PF 55/1.7|| CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8||Steinheil 85/2.8||Leica Elmar 90/4||Meyer Orestor 135/2.8||Tair 133/2.8 |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
From my extremely limited experience Minolta Rokkor MD 50mm/1.4 is a very good lens. It's one of my most used lenses, top 3 for sure. _________________ my flickr stream |
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
Many great lenses in this range, but for what it's worth, my top five contenders would be
Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2 (very expensive but if you're after a top quality fast glass, it can't be beat)
Leica Summilux-R 50mm E60 (very expensive and probably overpriced due to rarity but damn fine)
Canon FD 55/1.2 Aspherical (fantastically sharp and still reasonable, bokeh could be busy)
Zeiss Macro-Planar 50/2 (pretty damn perfect)
Minolta PG-58/1.2 (bokeh king) |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
But imho a real must-have for every MF-lens-friend is the Helios 44-2 58/2. Not for best sharpness, not for best colors, not for smooth bokeh but for it's character and price
All little comparision between some cheap 50mm lenses I made a while ago
http://forum.mflenses.com/a-little-comparision-between-some-cheap-50mm-lenses-t45319,highlight,%2Bcomparision.html _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:35 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I think Attila was right that you'll get as many answers as there are lenses. Folks here can only comment on what they have and what tickles their fancy. It's not my favorite focal length with a 1.5 crop factor, but I do use them on occasion. Like others, I can only comment on those I have and realize that my favorites are not based on lab tests or other lens against lens pixel peeping comparisons, but what looks and feels good to me. I'll give my short list and subjective assessment.
Minolta Rokkor-X MD 45mm f/2 Seems a very good lens and I should probably use it more. The reason I don't is because I tend to pick up my Topcor 35/2.8 or Lydith.
Konica Hexanon 50mm f/1.4 I've only used it once. When I look back at the images, I see that they're plenty sharp, so I have to say it's a good lens, but nothing clicked with me when I saw the images. The feel of the lens impressed me as cheaper build - it just didn't feel good.
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 50mm f/1.4 This is my oldest lens, having come on my first Minolta SRT-102 circa 1973. Of course I have a sentimental attachment with this lens, but it also feels very good to me and the images have a warmth to them along with excellent sharpness. This along with the Topcor is my most used in the focal range.
Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50mm f/1.7 Aother I've had a long time - this one came with my second Minolta camera in 1976. It's a good lens, but I rarely use it because I have the f/1.4.
Carl Zeiss Planar *T 50mm f/1.7 Seems a very good lens. I can't really explain why I don't use it more.
Schneider - Kreuznach Edixa - Xenar 50mm f/2.8 Also seems a good lens, but doesn't offer anything special over the others and it's quite slow.
Mamiya Sekor 55mm f/1.4 One of the Tomioka builds, a very good lens with cool colors. Just don't use it a lot.
Panagor 55mm Macro f/3 A great macro that is good at distance to, but not great. Special purpose lens used on occasion.
Topcon 58mm f/1.8 RE Auto-Topcor Oh my, an excellent lens. I can think of nothing bad to say. Build is excellent as is IQ. Gets equal use with my Rokkor. Wish I could afford the f/1.4 version. Honestly, I think it is a tad better lens than my beloved Rokkor.
Helios 58mm f/2 Everything everyone else says; good lens at incredibly low price. I have it because it's good and cheap, but I'll always pick up the Topcor 58mm first. Well, unless I think a need for the pre-set. _________________ Regards,
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5999 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
I think Attila was right that you'll get as many answers as there are lenses. Folks here can only comment on what they have and what tickles their fancy. It's not my favorite focal length with a 1.5 crop factor, but I do use them on occasion. Like others, I can only comment on those I have and realize that my favorites are not based on lab tests or other lens against lens pixel peeping comparisons, but what looks and feels good to me. I'll give my short list and subjective assessment.
Minolta Rokkor-X MD 45mm f/2 Seems a very good lens and I should probably use it more. The reason I don't is because I tend to pick up my Topcor 35/2.8 or Lydith.
Konica Hexanon 50mm f/1.4 I've only used it once. When I look back at the images, I see that they're plenty sharp, so I have to say it's a good lens, but nothing clicked with me when I saw the images. The feel of the lens impressed me as cheaper build - it just didn't feel good.
Minolta MC Rokkor PG 50mm f/1.4 This is my oldest lens, having come on my first Minolta SRT-102 circa 1973. Of course I have a sentimental attachment with this lens, but it also feels very good to me and the images have a warmth to them along with excellent sharpness. This along with the Topcor is my most used in the focal range.
Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50mm f/1.7 Aother I've had a long time - this one came with my second Minolta camera in 1976. It's a good lens, but I rarely use it because I have the f/1.4.
Carl Zeiss Planar *T 50mm f/1.7 Seems a very good lens. I can't really explain why I don't use it more.
Schneider - Kreuznach Edixa - Xenar 50mm f/2.8 Also seems a good lens, but doesn't offer anything special over the others and it's quite slow.
Mamiya Sekor 55mm f/1.4 One of the Tomioka builds, a very good lens with cool colors. Just don't use it a lot.
Panagor 55mm Macro f/3 A great macro that is good at distance to, but not great. Special purpose lens used on occasion.
Topcon 58mm f/1.8 RE Auto-Topcor Oh my, an excellent lens. I can think of nothing bad to say. Build is excellent as is IQ. Gets equal use with my Rokkor. Wish I could afford the f/1.4 version. Honestly, I think it is a tad better lens than my beloved Rokkor.
Helios 58mm f/2 Everything everyone else says; good lens at incredibly low price. I have it because it's good and cheap, but I'll always pick up the Topcor 58mm first. Well, unless I think a need for the pre-set. |
Thank Woodrim. Yes I understand that the number of lenses will grow with the respondents.
What I am interested in is reading why the lenses are "must haves" for each person.
There are plenty of lenses already for which I have no experience, and it is enlightening to see what endears them - or not - to their owners. Over time on this thread some patterns are likely to appear.
One that is evident already is the almost universal acclaim for the Helios 44 in several variants - the Helios 44-2 being a favourite.
Cheers
OH |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3072 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Over time on this thread some patterns are likely to appear.
One that is evident already is the almost universal acclaim for the Helios 44 in several variants - the Helios 44-2 being a favourite.
Cheers
OH |
Great, then I'm set.
Nice to see I own some of the favorites here.
I still haven't taken enough photos to pick a favorite yet, but I do like my Helios 44-2 and
my 3,5 Tessar. Why? The Helios is reasonably sharp and has interesting bokeh. The Tessar
is also sharp enough and takes good photos. |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
The cheapy: Helios 44, pretty fast, sharp, nice bokeh and I said it's cheap?
The expensive: Leitz Summicron-R 50/2, both versione are impressive, some say 1st version is better, some say the 2nd is the masterpiece... |
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gaeger
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 722 Location: Brier, Wash.
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
Lots of great 50s listed here. I would add the Nikkor 50mm f1.2 and f1.4 lenses, along with the Micro Nikkor 55mm f2.8, which is sharper than either of those in addition to its macro capability. _________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
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Minolta Rokkor 24, 28, 35, 45, 50, 58, 100, 135, 50-135, 300
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Attila wrote: |
In this focal length may even hard to say which one is not, usually all okay, some of them more than others, you will get hundreds different idea , due usually people love them and suggest what they have so take any what is fit into your budget. |
+1...
If you whish the best, take
Leica Summilux 1.4/50mm
Canon 1.2/55mm Aspherical
Minolta 1.2/58mm or 1.2/50mm
and your travel to find the optimum would stop immediately. You will no longer ask for more or better quality...
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
gaeger wrote: |
..., along with the Micro Nikkor 55mm f2.8, which is sharper than either of those in addition to its macro capability. |
I get that tomorrow
At the moment I love my Rokkor 58mm/1.2 as a ~50mm lens most. It gives good contrasty sharp images stopped down, widopen I like the mild glow and the blur. Bokeh is ok (some say it is great, but I doubt) - but at least without onion rings. Sharpness is ok, and I get infinity with my mount conversion.
I like the Helios 44 58mm/2.0 (the older the better). I use this cheap lens for experiments, have several copies of it. Love the easy disassembly of the optical parts for this.
I have Zeiss Contax 50mm/1.4 and 1.7, but don´t find those extra attractive - at the moment. This will probably change sometimes.
Probably a expensive Canon FD 50mm/1,2L would be a further interessting lens, not as smooth bokeh and big blur as the Rokkor 58/1.2, but most likely more sharpness and contrast wideopen. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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extra|ordinary
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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extra|ordinary wrote:
My absolute favorite standard lens is the C/Y mount Carl Zeiss Tessar 45mm f/2.8 Pancake. I love absolutely everything about this lens. It's sharp and it renders beautifully. Icing on the cake? It's about as compact as they come! |
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asterinex
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 311
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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asterinex wrote:
extra|ordinary wrote: |
My absolute favorite standard lens is the C/Y mount Carl Zeiss Tessar 45mm f/2.8 Pancake. I love absolutely everything about this lens. It's sharp and it renders beautifully. Icing on the cake? It's about as compact as they come! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5999 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks everyone for your responses.
Yes, there are hundreds of lenses in this category.
The purpose in proposing the question was to find out which lens(es) endeared themselves to image makers and for what reasons.
It was not necessarily a what is the sharpest lens question.
The feedback has been revealing
Much appreciated
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Add the Kern macro switar 50/1,9.
No matter if it's not cheap, who can hold it, DO!!
Very good IQ, excelent colors, no distortion at all.
In my experience, I think that it's apochromatic lens. Almost negligible CA, minimal. My telyt 180/3,4 reminds me the macro switar's CA treatment. |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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fermy wrote:
It's hard to find a bad 50mm lens, but my favorites are Canon FD 50/1.4 and Leitz Summar 50/2. The first is a very reliable and easy to live with lens: fast, good contrast, good sharpness, good coating, good flare resistance, inexpensive, no weaknesses. When I want to be sure that there will be no nasty surprises from the lens, I pick up this one, it delivers. Summar is completely different, you have to be careful how you shoot with it, but then it gives a very special vintage look that is difficult to get otherwise. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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james
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james wrote:
Personally, I love the Nikkor 50/1.2 AIS. It's got a lovely dual character; dreamy lower contrast but high resolution from ƒ/1.2-2 and thereafter, until ƒ/5.6, just wonderful sharpness and contrast. And you can still buy it new. |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 981 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Mir wrote:
good thing they're so many !
I love my M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 4,5/40 T with 10 blades and a MFD of 40cm.
Slow, but in good light it's wonderful....
A "must have" 40mm lens imho... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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