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Laurence
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: Pentax 645 Lenses: 150/3.5 55/2.8 Arsat 30/3.5 |
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Laurence wrote:
Here are some very quick scans. I will be adding to this thread as I finish any post-processing, sharpening, etc. I will also add full crops for comparisons of each lenses attributes.
For right now though, here are the basic scans, cropped only. It's looking like the Arsat just might be a decent performer, but I will know more when I re-scan at high resolutions and compare full crops.
Pentax 150/3.5
Provia
Pentax 55/2.8
Provia
Arsat 30/3.5
Provia
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Spotmatic
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Nice results! The colors of the Arsat seem different (warmer tone)? _________________ Peter - Moderator
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Beautiful landscaspes, Larry !
I am just thinking ... those blacks are "really" black. There is no texture to recognise. Is it a problem of this film or problem of scanning, or was the sunlight so harsh there ?
Cheers
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
Beautiful landscaspes, Larry !
I am just thinking ... those blacks are "really" black. There is no texture to recognise. Is it a problem of this film or problem of scanning, or was the sunlight so harsh there ?
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Tobias, in my experience slide film is very hard to scan. It also has a narrow exposure latitude. I get better results with color negative film... _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
The one with the 150 to me looks like an optical illusion - too much detail for such a large object! So my brain keeps making it into small crystal of something. Shows how clear the air is and how good the lens.
These are lovely pics, and I'm very interested in your results as now that I have a P645 I need them lenses...
I'm not sure the Arsat is warmer, looking at the sky the 55 has the most purple... _________________ -Jussi
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Breathtaking ! Seems Arsat perform very well! _________________ -------------------------------
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Nice results! The colors of the Arsat seem different (warmer tone)? |
I think the Arsat does show a bit of warming. I'm just now scanning some more Arsat slides, and the preliminary "diagnosis" through the light box is that there is more warmth than the Pentax 150/3.5 _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
Beautiful landscaspes, Larry !
I am just thinking ... those blacks are "really" black. There is no texture to recognise. Is it a problem of this film or problem of scanning, or was the sunlight so harsh there ?
Cheers
Tobias |
The sunlight was extremely harsh....however, there is more than just black in the original slide. I will be scanning with more "finesse" for the next round of image. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
The one with the 150 to me looks like an optical illusion - too much detail for such a large object! So my brain keeps making it into small crystal of something. Shows how clear the air is and how good the lens.
These are lovely pics, and I'm very interested in your results as now that I have a P645 I need them lenses...
I'm not sure the Arsat is warmer, looking at the sky the 55 has the most purple... |
Unfortunately, I fouled up here. In my hurry to put a baseline group out, I picked the transparency that has too much polarization with the 55/2.8. I will scan the CORRECT one this next round. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Breathtaking ! Seems Arsat perform very well! |
I think these have turned out to be examples of poor scanning technique. The 150/3.5 looks soft, compared to the slide.
Regading the Arsat, I'll put a different image, with lots of closeup detail, into this mix to show the Arsat's rendition.
Should have that Arsat slide scanned within the hour. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Notwithstanding these examples, for better or worse, the Pentax-A 55/2.8 is absolutely the best lens I have. The Pentax-A 150/3.5 is not far behind, though. The "normal" Pentax-A 75/2.8 is already proven as a wonderful lens.
I'll post a separate 55/2.8 slide as well. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Nesster
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Great info re. the lenses. And Priceless info re. technique - how often do you 'bracket' polarizer orientation? What a great idea. _________________ -Jussi
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
Great info re. the lenses. And Priceless info re. technique - how often do you 'bracket' polarizer orientation? What a great idea. |
Hi Nesster: I only bracket for polarization when I'm way out in the backcountry, knowing I may not get another chance. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:48 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
I love them, especially 3rd one. _________________
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Second is my favorite. Congrat, Larry _________________ Cheers, Voytek |
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