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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:39 pm Post subject: M42 1956 Carl Zeiss Flektogon 2.8/35 [Sold] |
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Mir wrote:
M42 1956 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35 [Sold]
Click here to see on Ebay
See my other auctions - Will combine shipping _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
@we3fotography
@7plus_pictures
@_whats.that.car_
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Very nice, but why DO YOU HAVE TO SHOUT Marcel??? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 978 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
I usually copy the writing on lenses' name rings exactly....
This time I did not..... but still, it's not shouting, it's a description...
And It's not addressed to a particular individuel or group of........so.......
Check your lenses, most are written in capital letters.
After 30 years in the psychiatric field, I'm always somewhat uneasy when confronted to
formalistic individuals.
But I'll correct it immediately.... only because it's not faithful to the writing on the lens...
(...) _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
@we3fotography
@7plus_pictures
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. |
There is a bit more to it than just the TARIC tarif, unfortunately! BTW this is the official EU calculator that, theoretically, must be applied for all EU countries when importing from outside the EU zone. One can take the risk to have the goods sent without any "declarations", tough luck if they catch you ... Then the added "fee" may be a lot higher than 45%
As I cannot calculate the import duties for CDN I made it for the equiv. USD
I'm assuming a postal fee of USD 25.00 and customs clearance by the BE postal services for a value> 150€
so read and weep ?
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Rigel wrote: |
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. |
There is a bit more to it than just the TARIC tarif, unfortunately! BTW this is the official EU calculator that, theoretically, must be applied for all EU countries when importing from outside the EU zone. One can take the risk to have the goods sent without any "declarations", tough luck if they catch you ... Then the added "fee" may be a lot higher than 45%
As I cannot calculate the import duties for CDN I made it for the equiv. USD
I'm assuming a postal fee of USD 25.00 and customs clearance by the BE postal services for a value> 150€
so read and weep ?
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I don't think that's the jpg you were looking for...
What you're talking about would have to include handling fees that should be avoidable. I don't know what (if anything) Belgian customs whould charge you for handling but you don't neccesarily have to pay the shipping company for handling. Your address and a CN22/CN23 declaration is all a parcel from Canada needs.
In my case (if the parcel doesn't sail past customs because the declared value is low enough and they believe it), I'd get a letter from German customs telling me to pick up the parcel at the local customs office (which is ~1.3km from my door, lucky me).
I'd take the said letter and a printout of the paypal transaction and pick up the lens. Unless take a long time picking up the parcel (in which case they'd start charging me storage fees at some point), I won't pay anything but VAT and the 6.7% TARIC import duties.
Price incl. shipping (using german customs' 'official' exchange rates for this month) would be 159.22€, based on that I'd pay 10.67€ in import duties and 32.28€ in VAT(19%) for a combined 42.95€. That's 27%, in your case (with 21% VAT) it would be 29.1%
If you're being charged >40% in VAT + duties (excluding handling fees, etc.), it's because you're being charged the blanket rate of 17.5% (which should only be applied to goods that can't identified). _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. |
There is a bit more to it than just the TARIC tarif, unfortunately! BTW this is the official EU calculator that, theoretically, must be applied for all EU countries when importing from outside the EU zone. One can take the risk to have the goods sent without any "declarations", tough luck if they catch you ... Then the added "fee" may be a lot higher than 45%
As I cannot calculate the import duties for CDN I made it for the equiv. USD
I'm assuming a postal fee of USD 25.00 and customs clearance by the BE postal services for a value> 150€
so read and weep ?
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I don't think that's the jpg you were looking for...
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Unfortunately it is ... all members of the local digital forum use it as a guideline ... |
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Rigel wrote: |
Unfortunately it is ... all members of the local digital forum use it as a guideline ... |
I'm quite sure it isn't because it looks like this to me:
_________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. |
It is that TARIC tariff plus country VAT (19% in Germany for instance), so I pay here usually 25.7% (on lens value + shipping cost) on import tax cost _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Boris_Akunin wrote: |
Rigel wrote: |
Too bad you're not in Europe ... .. EU import duties completely kill the market (up to 40-45% added depending ...) |
How do you get to that number? The TARIC tariff for photographic lenses is 6.7%. |
It is that TARIC tariff plus country VAT (19% in Germany for instance), so I pay here usually 25.7% (on lens value + shipping cost) on import tax cost |
It should be [Price incl. shipping costs]*[VAT]*[Import duties] rather than [Price]*[VAT]+[Price]*[Import duties]. (so 26.97% rather than 25.7% for Germany).
The only way I can figure how Rigel could be paying >40% in VAT+duties is if he's paying the blanket 17.5% rate. _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
I've used the calculator of the customs for The Netherlands as a check-up (Instead of the BE one), and the final cost is 246,36€ excluding the Customs clearance fee from the expeditor which is mostly around 12-13€ ..
Have you guys recently imported stuff from outside the EU? oh well ... |
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Rigel wrote: |
I've used the calculator of the customs for The Netherlands as a check-up (Instead of the BE one), and the final cost is 246,36€ excluding the Customs clearance fee from the expeditor which is mostly around 12-13€ ..
Have you guys recently imported stuff from outside the EU? oh well ... |
Even if the expeditor is paying the blanket 17.5% rate (rather than declaring a specific product category for every shipment), there has to be a lot more than VAT+duties in that figure. _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
No other comments needed ... ?
Weitere Bemerkungen braucht mann doch nicht ? (Leider findet mann keine Rechner für Deutschland ...???)
(VAT is 21% in Belgium)
http://www.importkostenrechner.at/ |
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Did someone say 29.1%?
$199.99CAD + $25USD Shipping (using the official exchange rates, 1€ = $1.1533USD = $1.454CAD):
_________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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Rigel
Joined: 26 Nov 2015 Posts: 121 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
You really need to get yr facts straight in terms of EU importation laws ... calculations for import duties are calculated on item cost PLUS postage fees. All the rest is irrelevant skirmish ... and adding the fees calculated by the transportation company for customs clearance (DHL et al. etc) .. seriously? |
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