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lucca1x
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 Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:34 am Post subject: Rollei HFT Sonnar 85mm f/2.8 |
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lucca1x wrote:
I've found one Rollei HFT Sonnar 85mm f/2.8 m42 with clean optics, mechanics working fine, no separation, coating seems ok.
The selling price is equivalent to 190 USD.
Is a good price? Ebay and other resources are not conclusive to me.
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
85's are typically fairly expensive.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/M42-scarce-SONNAR-2-8-85-HFT-Carl-Zeiss-Rollei-Voigtlander-Voigtlander-/300911298628
$451USD
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sonnar-2-8-85-Rollei-HFT-M42-/261384298669
$379USD
Both actual sales, so $190 sounds like a good deal to me, at the very least you should get your money back.
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shapencolour
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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shapencolour wrote:
This is one of the finest 85mm lenses.On par with 85/2.8 C/Y and 190 USD is a very moderate price.Take it.
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duckrider
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Rollei HFT Sonnar 85mm f/2.8 |
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duckrider wrote:
| lucca1x wrote: |
| ...Rollei HFT Sonnar 85mm f/2.8 m42 |
I've to ask: Really M42 or QBM mount?
Rollei M42 lens seem to be rare!
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lucca1x
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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lucca1x wrote:
I don't have a lot of experience with manual lenses, but I own a few m42 and I can tell for sure this rollei is not quick mount; it is a screw-threaded mount m42 and as far as I can tell is the right pitch...hopefully because I think I'll buy it. It's a pick-up only sell so I've reserved it until Saturday . I've talked with the seller and he'll allow me to test it as I wish before payment (great guy  until now). Anything in particular to test ... leaving aside a sharpness test-of course, fungus, defective mechanics ? |
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I don't think I'd worry about that stuff too much as the price is low enough that a service may bring the total cost up to what they normally sell for.
Aperture works? Oily? Ring turn smoothly?
Focus ring turns easily? Smoothly?
Glass clean? A flashlight really helps illuminate anything, just be aware most older lenses have dust in them.
Look for scratches or fungus at the edges.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Any 85mm lens is not expensive ~ 200 USD , grab it ! Look forward your samples, lens I think converted from QBM mount to M42
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duckrider
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:47 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
as a newbie member of this forum I did search in the depths of older threads:
http://forum.mflenses.com/rollei-50mm-f-18-sl-planar-with-m42-mount-t56769.html
Facit: If the lens is in acceptable condition: buy!
M42 is much more universal than QBM bayonet, and if You own a Rolleiflex SL, therer are adapters M42 to Rollei QBM without glas insert and the ability for infinite focus!
Did I say alredy : B U Y !
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lucca1x
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:06 am Post subject: |
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lucca1x wrote:
I'll buy it this week-end and keep you posted.
Thank you for the advices. |
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Tedat
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
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| lens I think converted from QBM mount to M42 |
probably.. the only M42 version of this lens would be a Color-Dynarex 2,8/85 for the Voigtländer VSL1 TM
There was another one like this on ebay:
Click here to see on Ebay.de
The M42 Mount doesn't look original to me..
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aoleg
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
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| The M42 Mount doesn't look original to me.. |
This is the original M42 mount for this lens. I owned one once, and it had exactly the same mount. M42 versions are rare, but they do exist.
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Tedat
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Tedat wrote:
ok.. the mount looks a bit different to my M42 Color Ultron.. that's why I thought
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lucca1x
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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lucca1x wrote:
I have taken the rollei today. It has the filter thread bent ( near the 2,8/85 markings ), and obvious signs that it was tried a repair of the bent metal, but still took it.
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papasito
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papasito wrote:
Does anybody know how compares the sonnar. Hft with the color dynarex 85/2,8, both in QBM mount? |
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y
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: |
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y wrote:
| papasito wrote: |
| Does anybody know how compares the sonnar. Hft with the color dynarex 85/2,8, both in QBM mount? |
Just to help you searching images - this Voigtlander Color-Dynarex was also labeled as Rollei MC Rolleinar or Mamiya Sekor SX. As for the rest of Rolleinar lenses, its manufacturer is Mamiya. |
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papasito
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papasito wrote:
| y wrote: |
| papasito wrote: |
| Does anybody know how compares the sonnar. Hft with the color dynarex 85/2,8, both in QBM mount? |
Just to help you searching images - this Voigtlander Color-Dynarex was also labeled as Rollei MC Rolleinar or Mamiya Sekor SX. As for the rest of Rolleinar lenses, its manufacturer is Mamiya. |
Thank you, very much.
I have searched images taken with the lens, and I found them good ones.
But I think the member who had or have it can tell his feeling using the lens, you know what I mean.
Yes, as you said it's a mamiya SX lens rebranded. From the end of SX series production, when there were a 85/1,7 and the 105/2,8 too. Who knows why.. |
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