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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: Testing Domiplan... |
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danikatia wrote:
A lens that was given to me and that I never used ... many people talk badly about of this lens
I took some pictures yesterday at sunset with this lens, it is not just to burn, I've seen worse ....
These three shots were taken with NEX3 and Domiplan, I do not know how I managed to hold the camera quite firm, I shoot without a tripod with shutter speeds between 1/3 and 1/5 second! Luck!
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Many people talk, actually waaaay too many Daniele,
but hardly some take the time and effort to find out
what they really have and make good use of if,
rather strive about the newer and better "stuff" and
of course talk a lot about it.
I'm very happy that you're different and take the
time and effort to explore what this lens could do
for you and you got your present for doing that
right here now!
Amazing results!!
P.S.: I should have added that there are no bad
lenses, just bad photographers... _________________ Klaus - Admin
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http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Yes, nice images.
Sure they was taken at F/8 or 11. And perhaps with PP too.
There are bad photogfrapher, of course, and also bad lenses, especialy when they are used at wide apertures. You can take pics with triplets (3 or 4 elements) wide open and is very probably that have images soft at the center, with very soft corners, look for that effect or not, you have it.
Take the domiplan and take pics at F/2,8 or 4. Except especial effects you arfe looking for, the images are uglys. |
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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
Thank you so much for the comments .... I know there are lenses better than others, but many times it's fun to try to bring out the best that a lens can give you ... is an excellent exercise to improve yourself _________________ Daniele |
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barryreid
Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 285 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:33 am Post subject: |
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barryreid wrote:
It came out as the worst 50mm ever tested in one magazine, but is there a truly awful 50? I had one for a while and tried a few test shots on my 1Ds and it just wasn't that bad. Sure it's not going to give a Zeiss Planar any trouble but I certainly used much worse when I was starting out with a couple of cheap zooms! _________________ Canon + Contax + Minolta + Nikon + Olympus + Pentax + Yashica = Adaptall-2 |
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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
barryreid wrote: |
It came out as the worst 50mm ever tested in one magazine, but is there a truly awful 50? I had one for a while and tried a few test shots on my 1Ds and it just wasn't that bad. Sure it's not going to give a Zeiss Planar any trouble but I certainly used much worse when I was starting out with a couple of cheap zooms! |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
danikatia,
That's why we're here, to prove that 95% of a badly reputed lenses are just weakly used ones, and the spreaded top lenses are just part of the higher average class. Call us myth-busters too,
Cheers,
Renato |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
RSalles wrote: |
danikatia,
That's why we're here, to prove that 95% of a badly reputed lenses are just weakly used ones, and the spreaded top lenses are just part of the higher average class. Call us myth-busters too,
Cheers,
Renato |
But you are forgetting that if your camera can take any lens, then why buy\use a Domiplan for say £8 (or free) when you can buy a Zuiko\Canon\ Minolta\Fujinon 50mm etc for as low as £15...unless the Domiplan has something special that other lenses do not. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
RSalles wrote: |
danikatia,
That's why we're here, to prove that 95% of a badly reputed lenses are just weakly used ones, and the spreaded top lenses are just part of the higher average class. Call us myth-busters too,
Cheers,
Renato |
But you are forgetting that if your camera can take any lens, then why buy\use a Domiplan for say £8 (or free) when you can buy a Zuiko\Canon\ Minolta\Fujinon 50mm etc for as low as £15...unless the Domiplan has something special that other lenses do not. |
Because only a bad worker blames his tools....
A Domiplan doesn't render like those other lenses, it has a very different character and a skilled shooter with a good eye for aesthetics can make good use of that character.
The 'best' lens in technical specs isn't always the right choice when the shooter wishes to create a certain aesthetic look.
Of course, if you only ever take boring shots then any lens is good enough
Dani's shots are very nice. Would they be any 'better' if he'd used a Planar 1.7/50 or a Summicron 2/50?
No.
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
RSalles wrote: |
danikatia,
That's why we're here, to prove that 95% of a badly reputed lenses are just weakly used ones, and the spreaded top lenses are just part of the higher average class. Call us myth-busters too,
Cheers,
Renato |
But you are forgetting that if your camera can take any lens, then why buy\use a Domiplan for say £8 (or free) when you can buy a Zuiko\Canon\ Minolta\Fujinon 50mm etc for as low as £15...unless the Domiplan has something special that other lenses do not. |
Because only a bad worker blames his tools....
A Domiplan doesn't render like those other lenses, it has a very different character and a skilled shooter with a good eye for aesthetics can make good use of that character.
The 'best' lens in technical specs isn't always the right choice when the shooter wishes to create a certain aesthetic look.
Of course, if you only ever take boring shots then any lens is good enough
Dani's shots are very nice. Would they be any 'better' if he'd used a Planar 1.7/50 or a Summicron 2/50?
No.
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Well Dani did well without a tripod so no point in using an expensive lens, and anyway you can always make adjustments in Photoshop......but the memberships shows that nearly everyone doesn't walk around taking shots with a Domiplan and there must be a reason why....especially when you can get well known 50mms for peanuts.
But you never know I have eighteen nifty fifty's but maybe I'm missing out on not having a Domiplan _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
It's definitely more sensible to pick one good fifty and learn to use it to it's maximum than collect lots of them and never master their use
This forum is full of people who obsess way too much about lenses, the best shooters are those who realise the lens is only a very small part of the overall equation. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
It's definitely more sensible to pick one good fifty and learn to use it to it's maximum than collect lots of them and never master their use
This forum is full of people who obsess way too much about lenses, the best shooters are those who realise the lens is only a very small part of the overall equation. |
Well I don't think members deliberately buy many nifty fifty's , but sorta accumulate them over the years _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Third image works best for me . Very good .And wonderful places to live ,to look at and to photograph . _________________ Cheers , Teo
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1373 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Excalibur,
The same can be sad of, for instance, a cheap Pentacon fifty, which price is between 5-15 ukp - I know 'cause I bought 4 of this lens the last month and half.
I always retain the best copy and sell the less perfect copy. Part of the pleasure is to get this lens, make yourself the CLA, put the lens in condition to be used for the next decade and pass to the next photographer's hand. After the service, it's a pleasure to test the lens and realize the excellent job which can be done with.
I'm not a professional lens tech guy, but this is just part of the game. The same can be sad about the Meyer-Optik Domiplan. The fact that the number of copies available today being high doesn't necessarily decreases their quality, only their price.
Cheers,
Renato |
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Nice samples, I like #1 best. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
The pics are really good, and I don't think that by saying the domiplan is bad one means that it isn't able to produce good pics, especially when properly used.
Anyway, I see much more capability from the photographer than from the lens here. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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danikatia
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 653 Location: Cernobbio Italy
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
How many comments!
Im not a good photographer (I'm not a photographer) trying to make the most of the camera and lens that I have available, I have improved and I really enjoyed....
However, for these three photos I have taken at least ten ..... :
Thank you at all!! _________________ Daniele |
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