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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
If you love these two.
Wait till you get to LA Orio 
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huhging
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huhging wrote:
yeah...those models would be nice, but my view finder will get very foggy.
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eeyore_nl
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Not sure if this lens was mentioned here already (I guess so)
I think the CZJ Sonnar 135/3,5 can deliver excellent bokeh 
It is a lovely lens for outside portraits too (a bit long for indoors)! |
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WallyJr74
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WallyJr74 wrote:
That would be my Pentacon 135/2.8. 
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dof
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dof wrote:
Vivitar T4 135/2.8 (ser# 37...)
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Without any discussion in my collection so far there is my one "the best from the best". This one is like a dream. The best dream of everybody who is taking pictures
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
It is boring to take pictures from short distance, something like quasi-macro to proof that background is beautifully blurred.
But this lens is also perfect from the bigger distance.
#6
All photos was taken with Pentax K10D and P. Angenieux 3.5/135 @3.5
The true is that lens is made in Exacta mount and made pictures keeping lens with left hand in camera body. I was "focusing " just to moving forward and back.
But all above photos are like cute sweet candies.
My dream "beyond" is to make other photography - something like this.
http://www.digart.pl/zoom/3001068/Anna.html
http://www.digart.pl/zoom/2260875/Eve.html
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Orio
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Wow I missed these two... real masterpieces!!!
@ Voytek: your Angenieux looks like a formidable lens, I'm envious.
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WallyJr74
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WallyJr74 wrote:
voytek - Nice lens indeed. Your photo colors are rich and vibrant. Did you increase the saturation/contrast in post or just have the in-camera settings slid all the way up?  |
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
No, I didn't. Sometimes is similar light and when subject is in certain color and BG is similar you can develop similar results. Example from photos which are already posted here
Angenieux 3.5/135
Spiratone 1.7/85
And please, don't be confused with this photos. Angenieux is really sharper then Spiratone.
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
With manual focus lenses is similar to driving different cars. Everybody who has to use several cars knows what I mean. You have to have time to switch from one to another. Sometimes it is only few minutes, but certainly is. With lenses is the same. Special if you are taking photos using lenses only in 100% manual mode.
I have Planar 1.4/85 in PK mount. I don't have to proof that it is a great lens. Samples?
You can recognize that third photo is again similar to both photos in the previous post regarding colors.
And even I am not familiar in 100% with Planar I thing that Angenieux 3.5/135 ist the best lens between all lenses in my possession.
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pwsonline
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: best bokeh lens |
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pwsonline wrote:
I am so happy with my recently aquired Jupiter 37A.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
What about this one?
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horvlas
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horvlas wrote:
Looks like Tair-11A at wide open, or Pentacon preset 135? |
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WallyJr74
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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WallyJr74 wrote:
All of my three lenses deliver excellent bokehs
CZJ 135/3.5
Porst 55/1.4
Pentacon 135/2.8
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
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| Looks like Tair-11A at wide open, or Pentacon preset 135? |
Yes, it does, doesn't it?
I also was suprised. This photo was taken with the AF Sigma DC 2.8-4.5/17-70!
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WallyJr74
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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WallyJr74 wrote:
I wish I had big windows like yours. 
| voytek wrote: |
No, I didn't. Sometimes is similar light and when subject is in certain color and BG is similar you can develop similar results. Example from photos which are already posted here
Angenieux 3.5/135
Spiratone 1.7/85
And please, don't be confused with this photos. Angenieux is really sharper then Spiratone. |
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papah
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papah wrote:
This thread is costing me much money and time scouring ebay...
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Big windows are overestimated. Dont forget: they need to be cleaned as well!
Just kidding, I also am envious. 
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
In my experience, all lenses when shooting macro (either because they are macro lenses, or because they are used with tubes) deliver great bokeh.
So I think it's not very truetelling to show macro pictures for bokeh.
Bokeh should be evaluated on normal focusing distances.
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
I agree in 100%. You can develop great booked with almost all existing lenses - taking shots from very short distance, with aperture wide open, and BG far away from object pictured Of course you can notice difference between those "macro" bokeh. But as I wrote above - look at http://forum.mflenses.com/what-is-your-favourite-portrait-lens-t3240.html
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Mal1905 wrote:
The Steinheil München Quinar 2.8/135 has a certain appeal to me when it comes to fanciable bokeh...
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mflex-on wrote:
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In my experience, all lenses when shooting macro ...
Bokeh should be evaluated on normal focusing distances. |
Yes, "Macro" shots are somehow not telling the true bokeh story. Even small sensor cameras like Leica Digilux II or Ricoh GX100 can deliver great bokeh in that range ... |
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djmike
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
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What about this one?
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Wow... LucisPictor, what lens you use?
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
That shot was taken with a Sigma AF 17-70 DC modern AF standard crop zoom lens.
But as we have learned, close-ups do not show the true bokeh performance.
I will try and shoot a "bokeh shot" with this lens in the next days, because even if it is not an MF lens (and neither a prime), it has a great bokeh.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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naplam wrote:
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That shot was taken with a Sigma AF 17-70 DC modern AF standard crop zoom lens.
But as we have learned, close-ups do not show the true bokeh performance.
I will try and shoot a "bokeh shot" with this lens in the next days, because even if it is not an MF lens (and neither a prime), it has a great bokeh. |
Yep, I chose it too as my all-around AF lens, and the main difference with some other AF zooms is the bokeh (the "famed" tamron 17-50/2.8 comes to mind -a pixel-peeper dream lens, with a horrible bokeh). The sigma's bokeh is mostly neutral in most situations and focal lengths |
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