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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: Auto Chinon 1.2/55mm Tomioka M42 |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I was able to acquire one of the latest models of the Tomioka-made 1.2/55mm. They are the fastest lens made for m42 SLRs and have reached a somewhat cult status because of it. I usually would agree that a half-stop difference over a 1.4 doesn't matter much, but come on, it's awesome to have such a fast lens and anyone that says otherwise is just jealous.
The Chinon re-branding is supposed to be one of the rarer models. According to Tomioka.de, only 300 were made. I think my model disproves that. It seems to be the 486th made. The body cosmetics are very similar to the Multi-Coated Chinon 1.4/55s and 1.7/55s, so it must be late production. Most of the 1.2s have a pale white/gold coating. My Chinon has a vibrant blue/gold/purple. Not sure if it's necessarily MC but I believe it's the most progressive coating before production began on the Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55.
Anyways, this lens is very impressive. Honestly @1.2 I thought it would be on the verge of unusable. Center performance is actually quite strong. Resolution @1.2 is definitely on par with any Super Takumar I've tried @1.4 but this may be overshadowed by an increase in glow and decrease in contrast. Still, it's actually REALLY good. Stopped down it actually may prove to be the sharpest lens I've encountered. No joke. Right away on the camera LCD I noticed a serious "punch" to images f2 and beyond. Microcontrast is superb. Just look at the dog pics. Even if they are a little front focused...
Photos are quick. I've only had the lens for a few hours. No PP at all. Taken on Sony a850.
The Lens:
I couldn't get the reflections to show in my light-box so it's just on my table
Famous "cut" back element to make room for the auto pin
Samples:
@1.2
@2
@3.5
@1.2
Crop
@2
Crop
Have a great day everyone!
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful pictures from a great lens! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
You lucky dog ! _________________ ---------------------------------
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Jealous I am! Great lens, lovely shots _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
This lens is in good hands! Gorgeous rendering. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Thanks everyone! I'm excited to finally have this lens. I shouldn't really mention how much I got it for...then you'd really be jealous! *cough*$100*cough*
Let me just repeat that these pictures are straight from the camera. Just converted to jpeg and re-sized. The second picture of my dog, Zorki, looks very dimensional to me. And the contrast is fantastic, no? Granted there's CA on the shiny latch of her leash but most lenses would do that. The whole "feeling" of the picture looks very similar to my new Zeiss Distagon ZS 2/35mm. Very surprising! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Thanks everyone! I'm excited to finally have this lens. I shouldn't really mention how much I got it for...then you'd really be jealous! *cough*$100*cough*
Let me just repeat that these pictures are straight from the camera. Just converted to jpeg and re-sized. The second picture of my dog, Zorki, looks very dimensional to me. And the contrast is fantastic, no? Granted there's CA on the shiny latch of her leash but most lenses would do that. The whole "feeling" of the picture looks very similar to my new Zeiss Distagon ZS 2/35mm. Very surprising! |
even better! Try an ordinary 1.4 lens parallel , may you will find your camera doing fantastic job ! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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br.sigit
Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Posts: 38 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: |
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br.sigit wrote:
congratz, you have a rare of a rare lens
i think that lens is 2nd generation, the focusing grip is rubber. the first generation is leathered focusing ring. The 21/3.5 version also has the same rubber grip (engraved TOMIOKA).
Nice sample shot, your dog is very lucky, photographed with gorgeus lens.
I just can buy the 55/1.4 version, leathered focusing grip, with engraved TOMIOKA. _________________ Cameras: Sony NEX 3N, Contax RTS II, M3, Bessa R2
Lenses: German and Japanese
Looking for: Pentacon 100/2.8 (front glass), Biotar 75 (front glass and aperture blades) |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:47 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
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Try an ordinary 1.4 lens parallel |
I will. I've tried multiple copies of every incarnation of the Takumar 1.4/50 (7&8 element super, s-m-c, smc). I've had at least 6 of the Tomioka 1.4/55s. They're all great lenses but I've never connected with any of them. I had the 1.4/55 Pancolar, which I sold recently. I only sold the Pancolar because I didn't believe the collector value was in line with its performance. Up to this point it was the best 50/55 I had tried but I am happier with the $900 I got for it. So although I haven't done a head-to-head test yet I'm familiar with general results and the Chinon definitely wowed me right away. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Look forward your result , can't wait. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:39 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The f2 samples look a lot better than the f1.2 ones to my eyes. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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poilu
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats for this bargain, first samples look great, will wait for the portrait series _________________ T* |
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hoanpham
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Congrats. That's real bargain. _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Impressive results _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
I'd like to see how it compares to the Nikon 1.2/50, just because. Congrats on finding a rare lens at a good price though! It looks like it performs excellently. |
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patrickh
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Looks fabulous -
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Nothing really worthy of the gallery yet so I'll just post this one here:
There was quite a lot of CA. Everyone will probably notice some desaturated edges. Also slightly front focused. Seems I have a tendency to do that. |
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