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Hundertwasserkirche at Bärnbach/Austria
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Hundertwasserkirche at Bärnbach/Austria Reply with quote
here a shot of famous Hundertwasserkirche at Bärnbach/Styria/Austria (nearby Graz) with NEX-7 and Elmarit-R 2.8/19mm Vers. II.

Friedensreich Hundertwasser was a very famous Austrian artist and he changed this church in 1987-1988.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poor church..


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice graffitis !


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good photo with nice colours.

Attila wrote:
Poor church..


Indeed. This work shows well the main difference between arts until the 19th century, and contemporary art. In the traditional arts, the artists worked at the service of their community (or of their patrons), and never dared to put themselves above the art itself or the sublime (such as God). In the contemporary arts, artists are ego-centered and want to impose their Self over the society and the community, and even over God. A church should talk the viewer about God, not about the freakness of the person who painted it.
Does anybody know the name of the (many) persons who made the Cathedral of Milan? No, and it does not matter, because that work was made in the collective spirit of honouring God and of serving the community. Today, instead, it seems that the name of the artist has become more important than his work. And this is a degeneration.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Good photo with nice colours.

Attila wrote:
Poor church..


Indeed. This work shows well the main difference between arts until the 19th century, and contemporary art. In the traditional arts, the artists worked at the service of their community (or of their patrons), and never dared to put themselves above the art itself or the sublime (such as God). In the contemporary arts, artists are ego-centered and want to impose their Self over the society and the community, and even over God. A church should talk the viewer about God, not about the freakness of the person who painted it.
Does anybody know the name of the (many) persons who made the Cathedral of Milan? No, and it does not matter, because that work was made in the collective spirit of honouring God and of serving the community. Today, instead, it seems that the name of the artist has become more important than his work. And this is a degeneration.


Great rant! And I agree for the full 100%!


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Art is changed badly not respect for talent I can buy better paint in Tesco made by unknown Ukrainen painter than see in museums.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow. I love Hundertwasser. I love Hundertwasser's art. I would love to live in one of Hundertwasser's buildings. If I was filthy rich I would own a lot of Hundertwasser's paintings.

He was also one of the very first environmentalists (before the term was coined).

I bet you guys love the straight line! [Insider Hundertwasser joke].

Do you hate Gaudi too. How about Dali? They were just egomaniacs creating art to get famous?! Bastards!
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Haha! Meant in good fun. We all have our opinions on art. I have no problem with talented artist getting known for their talent.
I have more problems with celebrities getting known for being famous with little talent.

Viva Hunderwasser!

PS: Rense, I find the Duomo to be dark and scary (but I do love it).


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kram wrote:

Do you hate Gaudi too.


Gaudi was a genius. The style of this church makeup in some points looks like a cheap imitation of Gaudi (with 50 years delay).

Kram wrote:
Haha! Meant in good fun. We all have our opinions on art. I have no problem with talented artist getting known for their talent. I have more problems with celebrities getting known for being famous with little talent.


I know Wink
My relationship with contemporary architecture has been compromised forever since I saw my disgraceful countryman Renzo Piano
ruining the mediaeval historical centre of Paris with an unwatchable half-Meccano style, half porno-toys reminiscent museum building.
I didn't say "ruining forever" because I always hope that one day some Al Qaeda guy can blow that crapbox in pieces Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rolf wrote:
and he changed this church in 1987-1988


Then it is becoming urgently time for a repaint! Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting discussion.

I only posted this images to show the capability of the Elmarit 19mm with NEX-7. I must say that I'm not a fan of Hundertwasser too. It is not my taste of art. My son is sitting in a wheel chair and we have had many problems due to the bumby way to the church to come into it. This entry was also designed by Hundertwasser. Design and art as a self purpose - sometimes without any reference for daily usage.

At the end not the right solution for a public church.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will not talk about art, like always with art, we can love it or hate it but I was just wondering why "god" would not like it Very Happy ....
About your picture, well I think the Elmarit 19mm did a very good job together with the Nex and the photographer as well of course!
Nice image Rolf with indeed great colors and thanks for sharing, I must admit I had no idea who was "Hundertwasser" before to read your post Embarassed ....
Did you planned to convert this lens to use it on your D700/D800???


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rolf wrote:
I only posted this images to show the capability of the Elmarit 19mm with NEX-7. ............

At the end not the right solution for a public church.


You are right in both points, I should admit that the lens do very well in this good sample, but the picture is very tempting Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry Rolf the composition doesn't work for me, I'm not a great lover of tall and narrow sccenes prefering a more wider perspective, but the lens certainly is a top performer as you have shown. Smile


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
To complete this thread here a pic inside the church. Hundertwasser made here some changes too (for example the background of the altar)

Same combo NEX-7 and Elmarit-R 2.8/19mm Vers. II



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hundertwasser made here some changes too

I like the disco balls lamps !


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Inside impressive to me both lens and interior.
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