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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:11 am Post subject: Century Tele-Athenar 215mm f/3.5 - A US-made Nikon Lens |
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luisalegria wrote:
This is one of those very unusual things, a US-made SLR lens.
In a factory Nikon mount to boot -
There you go - "USA" and "color coated"
But the coating is damaged - this lens has been used hard.
Century Optics is almost unique - a company founded to serve the needs of Hollywood and the movie industry, its the only significant US lens maker I know of that was based in California. Their main products were always long lenses for movie cameras, with a small minority of adaptations for still cameras. You usually see Century Athenars with some sort of interchangable mount if they have a still camera mounting. This one though is fairly unusual in having a fixed Nikon mount. Because of this, the reputation of the Century company, and the condition of the lens, I think this was certainly used by a professional photographer or business.
It still betrays its cine lens design - to focus the whole barrel turns, just the bit on the mount end is fixed. The aperture is preset, but the aperture ring itself has an aperture lock (the knob). The front end of the barrel has no proper thread for any sort of normal hood; the outside of it though seems to be tapped for some sort of dedicated hood I don't have. So I made a hood out of black paper and tape. Perfectly adequate !
The lens is marked to focus down to 15', with a very long throw (this was designed for very precise focus), another mark of many cine lenses. It does however screw out far beyond that mark (it does almost two full rotations), and the effective minimum focus is more like 6'/2m. I don't know if that is as designed or if it is a modification. In any case, this makes it competitive with the typical 200mm SLR lens.
It is of course very beaten up, and the coating on the front element is as you can see. It is not a pretty lens to say the least.
Performance - in a word, wonderful. This thing is sharp wide open, so sharp that I can't tell if it improves at all by stopping down. It is one of the sharpest tele lenses I have tried, maybe the absolute best, though perhaps that may be my impression because it is so easy to nail focus with this - perhaps because of the very long focus travel. Its perfectly fine with backlit subjects, though I expect it will always require a decent hood. Contrast is so-so.
Everything at f/3.5
The bird -
crop -
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kds315*
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nice one! Century Precision Optics was once just a service provider to the film industry in Hollywood (they are located in North Hollywood), then slipped into making cine lenses - quite good ones actually and well reputed especially for their long tele lenses. 2000 they were bought by Schneider Optics, Germany and now are an integral part of them.
A friend of mine and professional nature film maker once showed me his Century lenses and commented on their excellent sharpness - his "secret weapons". You have very nicely showed how true that is!!
The LensVademecum notes Tele-Athenars as being well reputed for Arri and resolving power up to 100 lpm (!!)
P.S.: I have just bought yesterday a 2.8/150mm Century Precision cine lens, so I hope it performs as well as yours! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Rolf
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
I like your reports/reviews of more unusual or rare lenses and cams a lot. This post is a perfect sample. Many thanks for sharing.
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Cistron
Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 238 Location: London/Vienna
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Cistron wrote:
Wow, this one neat piece of glas. Is it very heavy?
Thanks also for the little history lesson |
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
thanks a lot for showing such a rare lens _________________ Thomas
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SVP
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
I couldn't agree more.
I personally own a 300f/4.5 in M42 mount, a 385f/4.5 in Praktina mount, a 800f/6 in M42, as well as a monster 1200f/6.8 in T mount. All are great performers. |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Its not heavy, as it does not seem to have a lot of glass in it.
I don't know if its just an improved doublet. It does have rear elements.
It is quite long though. Its probably not correct to call this a telephoto, I think its just a long focal length. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
I like your reports/reviews of more unusual or rare lenses and cams a lot. This post is a perfect sample. Many thanks for sharing.
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+10 _________________ -------------------------------
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:30 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
A very nice review, Luis. Glad to see another CPO devotee here. I own two, both are Tele Athenar IIs -- a 500mm f/5.6 and a 650mm f/6.8. I agree about their razor sharp character.
Back when I was a camera dealer, CPO's former president also frequented the camera shows. I had the opportunity to talk with him a few times. When asked about the 500/5.6, which was the only CPO I owned at the time, he said that the 500/5.6 Tele Athenar II was composed of a "well corrected achromatic doublet." There is an optical flat before and after the doublet, so I dunno if his remark was an oversimplification or not, but I can attest to the "well corrected" nature of the doublet, at least. _________________ Michael
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Rolf wrote: |
I like your reports/reviews of more unusual or rare lenses and cams a lot. This post is a perfect sample. Many thanks for sharing.
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+1, keep em coming Luis, I always enjoy reading your reports _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16661 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Just in case someone interests that...
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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luisalegria
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thanks !
This list is I think much later than my lens - 1984.
I think mine is from the 1960's.
The ones listed are a later series of designs, that used T-mounts.
Surprisingly cheap even for the time !
What would a new 300/3.2 go for today ? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kds315*
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
The price of the 300/3.2 in 1984 was $850, so using http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/ one would get:
Current data is only available till 2010. In 2010, the relative worth of $850.00 from 1984 is: $1,780.00 using the Consumer Price Index
$1,570.00 using the GDP deflator
$1,740.00 using the unskilled wage
$1,930.00 using the Production Worker Compensation
$2,420.00 using the nominal GDP per capita
$3,170.00 using the relative share of GDP _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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cooltouch
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Luis, your lens was meant primarily for movie applications. If it has a permanent Nikon mount, it likely was converted at some point. An easy way to tell the difference between the T-A-IIs and the regular T-A lenses, is with the T-As the entire front lens tube rotates when turning the focusing ring. The T-A-IIs don't do this. According to what I was told by the CPO folks, the T-A-IIs were optimized for 35mm still photography use, and the use of T-mounts as well as the non-rotating front tube reflect this. However, even with the T-A-IIs, the T-mount is part of a larger mount system that unthreads from the base of the lens, allowing one to adapt mounts for (various?) movie cameras to them. _________________ Michael
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kds315*
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well, that price list denotes the many possible mount versions. A very clever idea CPO had - maybe borrowed from Kilfitt who did the same (not a T-mount though) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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cooltouch
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:05 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Yes, it is similar to Kilfit. With the Century, when you remove the mount, it exposes a locating pin. The mount has six holes the pin can be put into so the mount can be rotated if desired. _________________ Michael
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16661 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I just got my CPO 3/150mm and made a few tests - amazing!
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1134387.html _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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