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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: Biotar 2/58 for Mo |
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Olivier wrote:
Here are some quick shots with the Biotar 2/58 that I received with an old pentacon body.
This lens has been produced between 1955 and 1958.
It always hit the mirror on my 5D MkII because of the rear design which enters in the camera body when screwed entirely on a standard adapter.
This is the same as the preset alu Flektogon 2.8/35.
I had to use it with a flanged adapter.
Max distance focus : approx 4 meters and it seems that it modifies dof either.
At f2, it's soft. Good for painting effects.
First ones at f2, f2.8, then f5.6.
1- Flek 2.8/35 on the left, Biotar 2/58 on the right
2- Shots with the Biotar
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Biotar 2/58 for Mo |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
At f2, it's soft. Good for painting effects.
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Really?
My Biotar 2/58 is surprisingly sharp at f/2.
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Biotar 2/58 for Mo |
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Olivier wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Olivier wrote: |
At f2, it's soft. Good for painting effects.
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Really?
My Biotar 2/58 is surprisingly sharp at f/2.
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Hello Carsten.
Has yours the same design ?
Maybe it's soft because I can't screw it entirely on the 5D MkII ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
I don't think that problem is in your 5D but the glass. Soft and creamy background - like very much. This lens is one that have own character. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I love them Olivier #5 is my favorite.
I have a knurled aperture ring on my Biotar and knurled bottom focus ring, I note yours has small lines on your aperture ring(not sure how to describe that "look") You have beautiful pastel bokeh it must be your background garden? as mine has harsh brush stroke bokeh.(I like both versions not complaining just comparing )
If I were you I would by a camera (Panasonic maybe or Olympus) to fit these odd lenses on so you can use them...I am looking at possibly doing that if money permits so I can try all the odd ball lenses _________________ Moira, Moderator
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Hi Oliver
I had a year ago biotar one like yours (from late fifties)- alu finish t coated.. quite sharp as i remember. Very prone to flare.
Now i have an older one (1945) which is much smaller black one t coated again. This feels like a different lens - totally different character - soft and creamy.
So i guess they varry with the years.. even the size is design is different.
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
At F2 my Biotar is sharp in the centre.
The main problem I have with your samples and also Moira's is that they have no swirls. I think they forgot to add the swirl element in your lenses. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
mo wrote: |
I love them Olivier #5 is my favorite.
I have a knurled aperture ring on my Biotar and knurled bottom focus ring, I note yours has small lines on your aperture ring(not sure how to describe that "look") You have beautiful pastel bokeh it must be your background garden? as mine has harsh brush stroke bokeh.(I like both versions not complaining just comparing )
If I were you I would by a camera (Panasonic maybe or Olympus) to fit these odd lenses on so you can use them...I am looking at possibly doing that if money permits so I can try all the odd ball lenses |
Moïra, I agree with you about #5. Yes it is my garden as background. I try to take the background into account when I shoot in macro or proxi mode.
About the lens, I think it fits the 40D. But I have to wait my daughter's return as she kidnapped it...
Stefan, it seems that Biotars look like wine. There are different years' qualities.
Martin, I'll try to open it and clean lenses as there are some dust and some traces. Any servicing tips for this one ?
PS : you are right, I have no swirling element... I'm gonna take one on my trioplan, it has too much of them.
Thank you spleen. It's true that it has character. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
I have a Biotar and a Helios-44 and I find them both to be sharp at f/2.
When I disassembled my Biotar, the main problem I had was how to put it back together without losing infinity focus, because the threads can be screwed in at multiple positions. Make sure you make some marks on the barrel, so you know how to assemble it back. I spent a couple of hours to find the proper position. My Biotar looks slightly different than yours, but I believe your version is assembled in the same way. |
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