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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7755 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: Video about lens production... |
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I am not sure if this link has been posted before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7_wL0ZZi6k _________________ There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don’t.
"Schnäppchenjäger" | "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS 50e, EOS 500, Spotmatic SPII, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;3.5/135;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: CZJ Flek 4/20; Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; MIR38 3.5/65; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16006 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks! _________________
Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12528 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Really instructional video, Carsten. Thank you very much!!
I suspect that for low end Autofocus lenses of today, many of these processes may be automated in chains. Which I think can be an explanation why so many autofocus lenses owners are angry about the copy variations and quality control
This video also makes it clear why building care and quality control are so important. And why even prestigious firms like Carl Zeiss Jena have had difficult moments with quality control in the economical difficult situation of last years of DDR: manual lens building is a work that really requires technicians that are expert, qualified, and well motivated.
It's not like building an everyday object.
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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1863 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. That was excellent. JML seemed vaguely familiar, but on looking up their website I see it probably wasn't from camera lenses, so must have been some other piece of optical equipment I've encountered. _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
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Himself

Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 600 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Excellent video.
What intrigues me is that somewhere at the end it says that they need 6 weeks to build a lens.
It seems to much to me. It would cost a fortune taht lens. |
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12528 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Himself wrote: | Excellent video.
What intrigues me is that somewhere at the end it says that they need 6 weeks to build a lens.
It seems to much to me. It would cost a fortune taht lens. |
Maybe it takes 6 weeks to build a lens but workers can work on more than one lens per day.
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impactcr


Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Belgrade / Serbia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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here is another nice video
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/l_plant/f_index.html _________________ pentax k110d + 18-55 kit lens / pentax SMC M 50mm f1.7 / pentacon auto 135mm f2.8 MC / pentacon auto 200mm f4 MC / RMC tokina 35-135 / zeiss tessar 50mm f2.8 |
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12528 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for another nice link!
It seems that today, glass creation is 90% done by machines (except for very large glasses), glass polishing is completely done by machines, and the only process that remains manual is the lens assembling.
BTW what is that yucky fluorite in the middle of a tele lens  _________________ _
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impactcr


Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Belgrade / Serbia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know if all lenses are assembled by hand,those were after all canon L lenses...i doubt cheap plastic lenses are assembled the same way...maybe im wrong,just assuming
Anyhow,very interesting topic,at least for me,i always liked to see how lenses are made,so if anyone have some interesting link it would be great to share.
 _________________ pentax k110d + 18-55 kit lens / pentax SMC M 50mm f1.7 / pentacon auto 135mm f2.8 MC / pentacon auto 200mm f4 MC / RMC tokina 35-135 / zeiss tessar 50mm f2.8 |
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12528 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, if L lenses are mostly made by machines, we can just imagine how cheap lenses might be made  _________________ _
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Flor27


Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1196 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | Himself wrote: | Excellent video.
What intrigues me is that somewhere at the end it says that they need 6 weeks to build a lens.
It seems to much to me. It would cost a fortune taht lens. |
Maybe it takes 6 weeks to build a lens but workers can work on more than one lens per day.
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6 weeks ? It's fast, compared to the rumored 18 months it takes to cool the glass used in 2 elements of the Noctilux 50 1.0 Leitz lens... this glass could cost 45 times Nikon ED or Canon L ones...
Source (in french): http://dominique.guebey.club.fr/photo/leicaM/noctilux.htm _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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hacksawbob


Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1061 Location: LANCS UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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right now I've seen how its done I'm going to start making some from beer glass bottoms and toilet roll tubes! Canon look out!  _________________ LENS LIST |
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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1863 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| hacksawbob wrote: | right now I've seen how its done I'm going to start making some from beer glass bottoms and toilet roll tubes! Canon look out!  |
Are you going to corner the kit lens market? _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12528 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Farside wrote: | | hacksawbob wrote: | right now I've seen how its done I'm going to start making some from beer glass bottoms and toilet roll tubes! Canon look out!  |
Are you going to corner the kit lens market? |
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tanheis

Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 187 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Here is about Canons lens making...
It's all japanese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKjAk8Q-x0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzDPSi--3bg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IdeWzbQ_hA&feature=related
I would of hoped at least some subtitles
Short video about Zeiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZatFrB7I64&feature=related _________________ Camera:EOS 20D
Lenses: Nikkor 24mm 2.8, Vivitar 28 2.8"FD", Canon 28 2.8 "FD", Pentacon 30 3.5, SMC Takumar 50 1.4, Nikkor 50mm 1.4,Olympus 50 1.8,Pentacon 50 1.8, EF 80-200 2.8L(the only AF lens), Tamron SP 90mm 2.5, Tokina 28-85 4, Tamron SP 35-80 2.8-3.8, Zeiss Planar 85/1.4,Nikon 105mm 1.8,Seimar 135 2.8, Tamron SP 300mm 5.6, Tamron SP 60-300 3.8-5.4, Tamron SP 500mm 8.0 Mirror |
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