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SkedAddled
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 1427 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: Urban Ruins: Packard Assembly Plant |
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SkedAddled wrote:
This was my first use of the new Canon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens.
The IS certainly improves my handheld shots!
Location is the Packard Automobile Company's former main assembly plant.
Encompassing a footprint of 10 city blocks long and 2 city blocks wide,
the site is absolutely gargantuan. The footprint alone amounts to around
3.5 million square feet, not including the additional stories of the buildings,
which are mostly four to seven stories tall.
Words or pictures cannot accurately convey the enormity of this site.
We spent 5 hours touring it, almost constantly on the move, and I would
be very surprised if we covered as much as 1/16th of the place.
Make no mistake: This IS Detroit, in spite of what you may see in the
travel brochures. While the clustered, modern downtown area is rife with
clean & modern office buildings and lovingly preserved older structures,
just a few blocks away lies blight like this. Hundreds, if not thousands of
homes lie in various states of decay, trash and garbage litters the streets
in profusion, and countless historic structures are left untended, to simply
rot away for eternity.
So it is not so surprising, then, that after approximately 50 years, this site
has been severely ravaged by the elements of nature, vandals, scrappers,
homeless, gang members, and much more. It is one of the bleakest
testaments to Detroit's former industrial glory, and one of the most
shocking monuments to the collapse of a once-great automotive empire.
Moving around the place, I was constantly asking myself what could have
begun the demise of one of the most prestigious and highest-volume
producers of automobiles ever to exist on the face of the planet during
their time, and I came to no conclusion while witnessing the sheer size
of their remains left behind.
Welcome to Detroit.
This is our legacy.
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_________________ Craig
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Love it...what do they plan to do with the site?? In Sydney they pull down and build almost as soon as the buildings are sold.Get all the shots you can as it won't last.I think of how much Sydney has changed.I hope there are urban(photographic) records somewhere. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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SkedAddled
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 1427 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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SkedAddled wrote:
Mo-Fo wrote: |
what do they plan to do with the site?? |
There are NO plans. This site has been abandoned for approximately 50 years.
If any plans ever come to fruition, it will be to demolish the entire
complex for something new.
Unfortunately, Detroit does not have the finances or lack of apathy
for this to happen. The Packard plant has stood for around 50 years
unoccupied, so why should residents care? _________________ Craig
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:46 am Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
Good series, excellent documentation of urban decay. You're an aficionado of this kind of subject, if I remember well I've already seen other collections from you. Among the others I like the water tower, very powerful image and the tree grown inside the building almost as if the nature is trying to regain its place.
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SkedAddled
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 1427 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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SkedAddled wrote:
marty wrote: |
Good series, excellent documentation of urban decay. You're an aficionado of this kind of subject, if I remember well I've already seen other collections from you. |
Many thanks, Marty.
Yes, I do enjoy this decidedly questionable hobby of prowling around decaying and crumbling buildings, quite a lot.
I devoted my Tamron SP 28-80 Adaptall-2 to my shoot at the local trainyards, if you're interested in having a look: Grand Funk Railroad _________________ Craig
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Hi Craig
most impressive pictures !
You asked : .....
Moving around the place, I was constantly asking myself what could have
begun the demise of one of the most prestigious and highest-volume
producers of automobiles ever to exist on the face of the planet during
their time, and I came to no conclusion while witnessing the sheer size
of their remains left behind........
In my opinion there are always the same problems
- gigantism with the unability to react to changed economic conditions (structures, new products, new markets, costs, quality, customer requirements ....... )
- management mistakes (wrong leaders at the wrong places, incompetence and arrogance)
- and (for the past I´m sure that it was the fact) reactionary die-hards at the unions.
With this mixture you can kill every company. Look at the present situation with GM (btw we have here at Bochum a large Opel facility) or look at Toyota as well.
They will get the last chance within the next 6 to 12 months, and if nothing happen substantially the GM story will then the Toyota story for the next years and in 10 years this company will be bought by Russians, Chinese or Indians and then you can find such buildings as shown at Japan too. _________________ Rolf |
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
Is your Tamron SP 28-80 Adaptall-2 the model 27A?
Cheers, Marty. _________________ Canon FD
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supahmario
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 615 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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supahmario wrote:
#11 is wonderfull! _________________ EOS 5D, EOS 30
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SkedAddled
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 1427 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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SkedAddled wrote:
Thanks, everyone. I really enjoyed this site.
marty wrote: |
Is your Tamron SP 28-80 Adaptall-2 the model 27A? |
Yes indeed, it is. Wonderful lens on the cheap. I spent US $24.
A few more from the series:
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/Sked2/Packard_101209/Pano2.jpg _________________ Craig
Of course I'm all right! Why? What have you heard!?
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Vivitar 28 f/2.8 OM - Zuiko 50 f/1.8 OM - Tamron SP 28-80 f/3.5 AD2[Favorite!] - Hanimar 135 f/3.5 M42 - Soligor 135 f/2.8 T4 - Tamron SP 60-300 f/3.8 AD2 - Soligor 75-260 f/4.5 M42 - Soligor 400 f/6.3 T4 - Soligor 500 f/8 T2 Cat + Matched 2X TC - Addiction Growing!
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Great pictures!
As a former Michigan resident (Northville, a few kilometres away from Downtown Detroit) I wish that this country would spend more money on keeping its cities alive, and a tad less bombing other people's???
It's all part of that great American paradox whereby we are exhorted to carefully divide our trash into every more complex loads... whilst city authorities leave areas like this which must pollute a million times more?
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
#13, great!
Marty. _________________ Canon FD
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SkedAddled
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 1427 Location: Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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SkedAddled wrote:
nemesis101 wrote: |
As a former Michigan resident (Northville, a few kilometres away from Downtown Detroit) |
Interesting!
The old psychiatric hospital still stands there.
I'm hoping to organize another picture tour of the place very soon.
I have sets of the place already posted in this section of the forum. _________________ Craig
Of course I'm all right! Why? What have you heard!?
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nemesis101
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
When I first moved to Northville (from Brussels in Belgium!) I looked it up on the web.. the statistics told me the major employer was.. the mental hospital.. that gave me much pause for thought!!!!
Doug
SkedAddled wrote: |
nemesis101 wrote: |
As a former Michigan resident (Northville, a few kilometres away from Downtown Detroit) |
Interesting!
The old psychiatric hospital still stands there.
I'm hoping to organize another picture tour of the place very soon.
I have sets of the place already posted in this section of the forum. |
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