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Jesito



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Trying the rubber cups for lens disassembly Reply with quote

In yesteday parcel's there were also some rubber cups to disassemble lenses. This one is the "small lenses" kit, useful for my rangefinders and the narrower lenses.
The kit contains four dual cups, each one can manage two lens widths. In my set they were 48/46, 44/42, 40/38 and 38/36.
There were also two suction pads that have shown unvaluable to manage the individual lenses.

This is the kit box:



So let's try to open the top of my Weltblick 135mm lens (really an OEM Tamron in disguise), to blow some dust particles that are inside. I didn't try it before, because I was afraid to scratch the topside with the wrench.

First step, select the proper cup and size, this time was 44mm. It fits inside the lens cylinder but doesn't touch the glass!.





Firmly pressing on top with the hand and turning left, loosened the retaining ring for this lens:



Once the ring out, the suction pad enters into action:





Now I can access to the fist space inside the lens to clean it up.



Finally, the way back:



As a summary: Very interesting and useful tool, no risk of scratching the lenses. I'm going to order the kit for bigger lenses...

Kind regards.
Jes.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for both of you to provide this great information and tool set for community!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Attila, these cups are really easy and safe to use!

Kind regards,
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250
Fixed Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm, several Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9, Oly E-640, EOS 30D
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Moskva
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, Pentax SF7, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Minox 35 ML, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jes ... the following diameters (in mm) are available:

2 rubbers set:
65/75, 80/84

3 rubbers set:
Sizes: 47/50, 52.5/56, 60/70

4 rubbers set:
Sizes: 34/36, 38/40, 42/44, 46/48

9 rubbers set:
(32)30.2/31.5, (30)28.2/29.8, (28)26.4/27.8, (26)24.5/25.7, (24)22.3/23.8, (22)20.5/21.5, (20)18.3/19.7, (18)16.5/17.5, (16)14.4/15.5
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to try the suction cup. I have a couple of lenses that are stuck, ring removed but I can't take them out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luisalegria wrote:
I need to try the suction cup. I have a couple of lenses that are stuck, ring removed but I can't take them out.


Luis,

Not sure you can do a strong traction with the suction pads. To me are very useful to avoid turning down the lens. Sometimes there are shims or other elements that can fall down and you can lose perspective of where they were placed. In this way you extract the glass only and you can see what's inside without disturbing the setup.

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Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250
Fixed Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm, several Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9, Oly E-640, EOS 30D
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Moskva
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Minox 35 ML, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps you can use something like this ...



sorry for the crappy sharpness
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hk300 wrote:
Jes ... the following diameters (in mm) are available:

2 rubbers set:
65/75, 80/84

3 rubbers set:
Sizes: 47/50, 52.5/56, 60/70

4 rubbers set:
Sizes: 34/36, 38/40, 42/44, 46/48

9 rubbers set:
(32)30.2/31.5, (30)28.2/29.8, (28)26.4/27.8, (26)24.5/25.7, (24)22.3/23.8, (22)20.5/21.5, (20)18.3/19.7, (18)16.5/17.5, (16)14.4/15.5


Thanks, Alex.

I think I would need the 3 set and the 9 set... ¿What about pricing and shipping costs?.

Kind regards,
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250
Fixed Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm, several Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9, Oly E-640, EOS 30D
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Moskva
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, Pentax SF7, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Minox 35 ML, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot 520, SONY DSC-V1, Nikon 5200, Pana G1


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hk300 wrote:
perhaps you can use something like this ...



sorry for the crappy sharpness


that sure would come in handy, especially for the inner elements...

What I've done is just turning it around, almost lost sight of which element was which... Good thing I had a schematic.

Where can we get these suction thingies?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can order here in pm from Alex (hk300) or me, it will be available soon on Ebay too in my web shop.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Weltblick Reply with quote

How do you like that 135mm Weltblick (Tamron?) lens? It seems very similar to Vivitar 1.8/85mm classic. It might be that Weltblick (Tamron?) did both of them. I haven't seen such strange aparture blades positioning anywhere else.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Mugs disassembly. Reply with quote

: wink: Bonjour, nouveau venu sur la M42, je suis équipé d'un système optique à plusieurs. (Helios, Tessar, Jupiter)
Certains sont anciens et ont besoin de nettoyer et de lubrifier.
Je cherche des "coupes" vu dans cette catégorie.
Je ne peux pas les trouver dans des dimensions qui me faut:
32mm à 72mm
Si vous savez où, je vous remercie de me donner les coordonnées.
Je vous remercie ............ Marcel
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