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jibbonpoint




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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Tripod Probs Reply with quote

Hi

I've a problem with a Tamron 70-210 19AH. It weighs just under a kilo & doesn't have it's own tripod mount & can't see how you could fit one either. I'm having trouble getting it still on the tripod, even with the mirror up delay. It's worse if I have to use a 2x teleconverter. (sometimes I just have to use one). I have a Velbon CX560.

Does anyone have any ideas? Confused
Thanks

Graeme
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not familiar with that tripod, is it possible that it is a 'lightweight' model?

May also be some universal style clamp-on type tripod mounts.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It ceratinly wasn't one of your more expensive tripods Michael. (Approx $US110) but the tripod handles heavier units but more balanced. The mass here is supended from the camera but not balanced. I think the solution is to not fully extend it, which means I'll have to crouch; Oh! well.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you need to use the idea that Andy (F16SUNSHINE) passed on to me in my thread on a question of technique
http://forum.mflenses.com/a-question-of-technique-t7175.html

The jist of it was to use additional weighting at the base of the tripod via drawstring bags.

I use that same lens on a very regular basis - Minolta Mount (Minolta XG70) usually with the auto winder on it and sometime with a tele-extender with no issues.

The tripod I use is an older Velbon Victory - which isn't exactly a heavy weight - though quite stable.

The only other thing that I can think of (although it may be a stretch) is your weight centred (the camera) and does it have any weight to it?

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Tripod Probs Reply with quote

jibbonpoint wrote:
Hi

I've a problem with a Tamron 70-210 19AH. It weighs just under a kilo & doesn't have it's own tripod mount & can't see how you could fit one either. I'm having trouble getting it still on the tripod, even with the mirror up delay. It's worse if I have to use a 2x teleconverter. (sometimes I just have to use one). I have a Velbon CX560.

Does anyone have any ideas? Confused
Thanks

Graeme


Here's what I'm doing - the Tamron tripod mount is rare, but the cloned Canon EF 70-200 tripod mount is commonly available on ebay for a few bucks. The Tamron barrel dia is 64mm, while the Canon is 66mm. Just a matter of making it secure.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamron made a tripod sleeve that fits most if not all their med and long Adaptall lenses. One occasionally comes up on eBay.
Unfortunately they sell for fairly good money.
The simple reason for this is because you only need one tripod sleeve for any number of Tamron Adaptall lenses you own so not as many sleeves as lenses were ever sold and Tamron owners never sell their tripod sleeve unless they are giving up all their Tamron lenses.
I would never sell mine, even for real silly money.
My suggestion is you make a simple tripod cradle to support your lens on a monopod or tripod. Should be good for speeds down to 1/30 sec and lower if your carefull.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all thst assistance. I'll see what the Tamron cradle looks like & maybe get the Canon to adapt or even fashion my own.

Graeme
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use this rail most for macro work but it is also handy to Balance heavy lenses on the tripod.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Tripod Probs Reply with quote

Farside wrote:
...The Tamron barrel dia is 64mm, while the Canon is 66mm. Just a matter of making it secure.

That is good to know! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice combo Rob.
Is that rail part of a bellows?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Himself wrote:
Nice combo Rob.
Is that rail part of a bellows?


Yes it was the old Russian bellows. I bought them for £5 and did a bit of a chop. A proper focus rail costs a lot more and I doubt they are any better.
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