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majadero
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Trip to Russia |
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majadero wrote:
Hello, I am new here. I have read a lot on this forum, it is great.
Next month I go to Russia for a one month job so I have an ocassion to buy few Russian lenses. The question is:
what are the best 3 lenses worth buying? Focal lenghts 50-135. I need lenses for fashion work, excellent background blur (lots of aperture blades) and very clean, transparent image; neutral colour, 3D "look".
The camera is eos 5D.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice to see you here! Thank you for joining us!
My suggestion is:
Helios-40-85mm f1.5 M39 works fine with additional M39->M42 ring
Helios-40-2-85mm f1.5 M42 basically same but more expensive
Kaleinar 100mm f2.8
Tair 11A- 135mm f2.8 Black M39 and M42 both are available both SLR lens
Tair-11 133mm f2.8 M39 SLR silver
Jupiter-9 2/85mm any SLR variant black or silver !! Careful! It has rangefinder version too! SLR version is like a grenade small like 50mm lens
Vega 90mm f2.8
With all lenses you can found examples in mflenses.com/gallery _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Nice to see you here! Thank you for joining us!
My suggestion is:
Helios-40-85mm f1.5 M39 works fine with additional M39->M42 ring
Helios-40-2-85mm f1.5 M42 basically same but more expensive
Kaleinar 100mm f2.8
Tair 11A- 135mm f2.8 Black M39 and M42 both are available both SLR lens
Tair-11 133mm f2.8 M39 SLR silver
Jupiter-9 2/85mm any SLR variant black or silver !! Careful! It has rangefinder version too! SLR version is like a grenade small like 50mm lens
Vega 90mm f2.8
With all lenses you can found examples in mflenses.com/gallery |
Oh if you need neutral color by any AF lens instead... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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majadero
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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majadero wrote:
"Oh if you need neutral color by any AF lens instead..."
I have them all!
Will check the lenses you proposed, thank you. Using Russian lenses I can get different look, that's what I hope for. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I just see you need 50mm lenses too,
Arsenal 1.4/50mm
Helios-40 any variant
Industar any variant _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1389 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
I suggest Helios-40-2 (the black one), MC Jupiter-9 (or you can pick up a few non-MC lenses for real cheap once you are there), Tair-11A (again, the black one).
If you are going to buy more than three, I suggest getting MC Jupiter-37A (or cheaper non-MC), and maybe Jupiter-6 (the black one, if you can find it). You can also get Helios-44-6 or 44-7, these are really cheap. Kaleinar 5H is also a good one, but may be rare. _________________ List of lenses |
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IvanJ
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Serbia
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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IvanJ wrote:
this will be somewhat repeating...
I would suggest that in no case you omit getting Helios 40 (I have one borrowed from a friend and it's enchanting).
as a choice no.2, I would suggest (although it doesn't fall into 50-135 category) Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye. In Russia it should be cheap, and it's great. Especially on 5D.
as a choice no.3 I would suggest something of the following:
Jupiter 9 MC (I don't know if multicoating makes difference on this one, mine is non-MC and it has great contrast and colors) which is Zeiss Sonnar 85/2 copy, 12 aperture blades
again outside of 50-135 category, but great lowlight lens (although not much of a landscape lens) - MIR 24M - 35/2
Jupiter 11A - Zeiss Sonnar 135/4 copy, 12 aperture blades, great bokeh
Jupiter 37A - Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5 copy, many blades
Volna 9 - 50/2.8 macro
Industar 50 - 50/3.5 tessar
I would seek Carl Zeiss Jena and Pentacon lens as well, they should be in abundance. _________________ Nikon D70, Zenitar 16/2.8 FE, Super Takumar 50/1.4, Jupiter 9 85/2, Elicar 90/2.5 Macro, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 11A 135/4, Pentacon 200/4. CZJ Sonnar 300/4 Nikkors: 20/2.8 AF-D, 50/1.8 AF, 105/2.5 Ais, 80-200/2.8 AF-D, TC-16A |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
One lens that almost nobody knows, very few have, and I rank amongst the top Soviet lenses: the MIR-36B 65mm f/3.5
One of the sharpest lenses that I have, and if you see one you should buy it. It should cost around 40-50 Euros.
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Orio wrote: |
One lens that almost nobody knows, very few have, and I rank amongst the top Soviet lenses: the MIR-36B 65mm f/3.5
One of the sharpest lenses that I have, and if you see one you should buy it. It should cost around 40-50 Euros.
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I see a few of this on the bay, but they are for Salut, Kiev 88. Is there an EOS adapter for this or is there M42 version of it? And how's the performance on crop camera?
[EDIT] ...forgot that google is a friend. Found that DVD Technik sells adapters for these. The 2nd questions remains Any thoughts? |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
bawang wrote: |
And how's the performance on crop camera? |
Excellent.
This is a shot I took with the 5D:
To figure how it works on a crop camera, just consider the centre of this frame.
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
bawang wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
One lens that almost nobody knows, very few have, and I rank amongst the top Soviet lenses: the MIR-36B 65mm f/3.5
One of the sharpest lenses that I have, and if you see one you should buy it. It should cost around 40-50 Euros.
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I see a few of this on the bay, but they are for Salut, Kiev 88. Is there an EOS adapter for this or is there M42 version of it? And how's the performance on crop camera?
[EDIT] ...forgot that google is a friend. Found that DVD Technik sells adapters for these. The 2nd questions remains Any thoughts? |
Get the one for the Pentacon Six mount, the 36-B. The older ones with the early Kiev -V mount are adaptable, but it's a pain in the arse. Avoid the quickscrew mount, only get the P6. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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