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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
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All the known copies of Topcon 85 has serial of 13300xxx.
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I also have one, but the serial is 133011xx, so it seems to be more than 1000 pieces produced |
Can you provide a picture of the name ring? _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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Max78
Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 74
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Max78 wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
Max78 wrote: |
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All the known copies of Topcon 85 has serial of 13300xxx.
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I also have one, but the serial is 133011xx, so it seems to be more than 1000 pieces produced |
Can you provide a picture of the name ring? |
Here it is (please sorry for the bad light conditions, its already a little dark in the Europe):
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Quite nice! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Thanks for posting the proof, so 1200 made?
Please feel free to post more shots from it. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:13 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Great to see a copy with >1000 serial! _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
We'll I received my lens last Thursday, and was shocked to see the condition my new lens was in.
The foam in the case had turned to dust, the seller claims they had the lens in a bag and then put in the case, that FedEx opened it and removed the bag for inspection.
What ever happened, it's now contaminated with fine dust.
I asked if he would be willing to split the cost of a Clean & Lube, he said sure, I asked if $100 was fair, he responded with
"usually cleaning cost only $50-60.
beside all you need just blow the dust,dust won't get in helicoid or glass because protect by caps.
you know is not my fault,custom didn't put in the bag."
Which I responded with
"The dust was past both of the caps, then there are the gaps at both ends of the focus ring which lead to the optics and helicoid, and from experience, it's only a matter of time till it gets everywhere, I've removed as much dust as I could, but I don't know how much remains in areas I can't see in without opening it up.
I don't know who's fault it is, all I know is I received what should have been a clean lens just covered in very fine dust, like baking flour.
Re: cleaning cost.
As an example...
KEH's flat rate for a prime lens is $120 (could be $230 for fast/high end glass) not that I'd use them since I don't think they have much experience with Topcor lenses).
http://www.keh.com/Repair-Center.aspx (PDF on the right)
Plus shipping cost, so that is ~$200"
Then his response...
"please ship back to me,i will take care of it.
cleaning cost here just $50-60,beside it is very simple cleaning,not even need open the glass."
Now what?
I don't really want to send it to him as I don't trust him any more. And I want to keep the lens as it is sharp(see below)
A7r first shot At the FedEx parking lot.
Another near by.(check out the fence @100%)
Opinions? _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:42 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that. If you do not want to send the lens back, open a PayPal dispute and ask for a partial refund. Put this into the Buyer Sources section and let others know what happened.
P.S. The photos on your Flickr are protected. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1389 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:10 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
I'm pretty sure the dust can be just blown/wiped off from the outside, and cleaned from external glass surface with lens wipes. I would say it's unlikely that enough dust entered the inside of the lens to affect image quality in the slightest. If I were you, I would accept a reasonable partial refund and keep the lens. Shipping it back will cost you $$$, and getting another Topcor in any condition is iffy. _________________ List of lenses |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:56 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Give it to a good company that can clean it and indeed it should be around $50-60 only. There is a very good company in Florida that a member here uses who work very well. I can PM you the address if you like... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Or try to contact member Mir if it really need to be cleaned. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:15 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
That is the guy Mir uses _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
That is the guy Mir uses |
I think he do the CLA himself. LOL
Please pm me the address too. My friend may need it. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:21 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Get it cleaned! Over here, it would be around 50-60, so I guess, it will be in the same range where you live.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
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Bessaflex TM
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm just going to clean it and be done with it all.
Any other lens and I would have sent it back and looked for another, but this lens is so hard to come by...
I can't wait till spring when the colour comes back from vacation, I so miss the colour, winter is so bland to me, brown and grey dominate the landscape with a few greens from the evergreens to remind me how things can be.
Ps. Klaus, feel free to pm or post the contact info for the company. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 973 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
I would gladly like to do it .... but you run the chance of never seeing it again
Joke aside... this is not an ordinary RE, Auto-Topcor 1,8/58, cheap and available...
this one is scarce, very desirable and can get extremely expensive... and i suspect, a very good lens....
One i still dream about .... (you lucky *%$#, you !)
I wouldn't service it if it wasn't mine...
And i would have it CLA'd if i was in your shoes....... $50 or whatever is well worth it in mho, for such a lens....
The exterior is pretty easy to clean, but some of this powder stuff has probably made its way into the lens....
And the thing is 40 some years old, it would benefit from brand new lube and a bit of cleaning...
Most RE, Auto Topcor i've opened were filthy and the lubricant had broken up.....
I've written as other have done, about Marc ....
http://forum.mflenses.com/lens-repair-ebay-user-100-feedback-t61112.html
I'll update this thread soon as he has serviced many other lenses for me since..... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Fedex opens up the box and inspect the lens!? Hell i don't want anyone to touch my precious lens! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
I have had boxes opened by Customs but they have never opened the plastic bags that held the lens as they can see through the plastic that it is indeed the lens mentioned on the customs docket.
I have also never seen packaging reduced to powder before.
This sounds quite odd to me.
Still and all it is a rare lens and well worth the effort and cost to have it CLA'd
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
It was the foam from within the 40 year old Topcon lens case that had turned to dust, and the vibration of shipping sent it everywhere inside the case, I still don't know why it was even in the case if the foam was so bad, even if it was sealed in plastic, dust would have covered the bag, I don't know what people think some days.
I'm in talks with Marc(from Mir's link) to have it all cleaned and lubed to better than pre-shipped condition, seems like a level head that knows his limits. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
I'm in talks with Marc(from Mir's link) to have it all cleaned and lubed to better than pre-shipped condition, seems like a level head that knows his limits. |
Good move.
This is such a well regarded lens and so hard to come by.
You will not be disappointed
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
It really is a shame they left the photography industry. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I just scored myself a copy of "The Topcon Story" by Marco Antonetto _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 973 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
Please scan it, make a PDF and share it....
They just can't be found......
Thanks in advance
And while your looking at the book, maybe you should staighten out this old thread:
http://forum.mflenses.com/topcor-re-auto-28mm-f2-8-t61840,highlight,%2Btopcor.html
Thanks again _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
I just scored myself a copy of "The Topcon Story" by Marco Antonetto |
Congrats, a rare find, I'm looking since many months, but low prio... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Mir wrote: |
Please scan it, make a PDF and share it....
They just can't be found...... |
I'll try. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Lightshow wrote: |
I just scored myself a copy of "The Topcon Story" by Marco Antonetto |
Congrats, a rare find, I'm looking since many months, but low prio... |
Bought it from http://peterloy.com/ has lots of other photography related stuff. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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