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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: Topcor Lenses |
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woodrim wrote:
I've just recently developed an interest in Topcon/Topcor lenses and wonder why we don't see more about them in this forum. I'm particularly interested in the 50/1.4, 100/2.8, and 58/3.5 Macro. I know Attila has had experience with the 100mm, but would like to hear from others about any experience with any focal lengths. I read that the Topcon cameras were top notch and the lenses their equal. _________________ Regards,
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The R and RE Topcors are stunning, really the top of the line in Japanese lenses, I have directly compared the 1.8/58 to the Hexanon 1.7/50, the 3.5/135 to the Hexanon 3.2/135 and the 5.6/200 to the Hexanon 3.5/200, in all cases the Topcors are ever so slightly better, more saturation to the colours and more microcontrast, also a wee bit sharper, which is saying something as those three Hexanons are really great lenses.
The problem is the price, they cost the same as T* lenses, the 1.4/58, 25mm, those two I would love but they are $$$.
The 3.5/135 and 5.6/200 are fairly cheap though, the 1.8/58 not so bad but the others, all expensive. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have the 35/2.8, 100/2.8, 135/3.5 and all are superb. They compare very favourably with my Zeiss and Nikon lenses
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
I had a Topcon RE Super with a 1.4/58 many years ago - very, very nice lens indeed. On film, it was slightly warm in tone, which I liked. The RE Super was a brick-shaped battleship of a camera (how's that for mixed metaphors?) with a really efficient TTL metering system. Another one I should have kept . . . _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/topcon-unirex-and-topcor-f4-28mm-t24624,highlight,%2Btopcon.html
but I believe you mean more the RE series _________________ Rolf |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
yes, Rolf. The UV series is reported to be an economy line and regarded as average, but I have no direct experience with any of them. Your pictures look very good to me, but I suspect that is more the photography than the lens. Lens appears to have a haze similar to one of my Meyers. Still, the haze somehow enhanced the photos with the gray skies.
I'm wondering about the 58/3.5 Macro. I don't remember seeing anyone here report on that lens. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
yes, Rolf. The UV series is reported to be an economy line and regarded as average, but I have no direct experience with any of them. Your pictures look very good to me, but I suspect that is more the photography than the lens. Lens appears to have a haze similar to one of my Meyers. Still, the haze somehow enhanced the photos with the gray skies.
I'm wondering about the 58/3.5 Macro. I don't remember seeing anyone here report on that lens. |
I think most people who can afford pricely topcors only collectors , users rather buy Contax lenses for same amount of money. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
woodrim wrote: |
yes, Rolf. The UV series is reported to be an economy line and regarded as average, but I have no direct experience with any of them. Your pictures look very good to me, but I suspect that is more the photography than the lens. Lens appears to have a haze similar to one of my Meyers. Still, the haze somehow enhanced the photos with the gray skies.
I'm wondering about the 58/3.5 Macro. I don't remember seeing anyone here report on that lens. |
I think most people who can afford pricely topcors only collectors , users rather buy Contax lenses for same amount of money. |
+1, Topcors and the cameras are among the most colelctable of brands.
As for the 58mm macro, I'd skip it as there is the 100mm macro with matching variable extension tube, that one has a legendary reputation, but is rare as rocking horse droppings to see it for sale. The variable tubes are a little less rare but still command a high price.
If you want a 50-ish macro lens, get a 3.5/55 or 2.8/55 Micro-Nikkor, a lot cheaper and incredibly sharp. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 192
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:40 am Post subject: |
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John Shriver wrote:
The long focal length Macro is the 135mm f/4. Like the 58/3.5, it focuses from infinity on either the variable extension tube or the bellows. Much nicer working distance than the 58mm macro. But the 58/3.5 macro is a darned fine lens, even at infinity. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I'm starting to get curious about their RF lenses, will have to do some research.
I have an RE 28/2.8 en route, looking forward to getting it. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I'd like to see more from the 28mm. They tend to sell at higher prices than the 35mm. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
The 35 will be my next RE I think, the shots from it looks great, and what I've seen from the thread on the 28 shows that it should be a good performer, I'll post pics and thoughts as soon as I have any. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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sburley
Joined: 16 May 2012 Posts: 19 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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sburley wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
I'd like to see more from the 28mm. They tend to sell at higher prices than the 35mm. |
I think this is mainly due to rarity, the 28mm was released very late and most users already had the 25mm and 35mm, so few required a 28mm also. Topcon were not great product planners. Apparently very late in the day they also advertised a fast f1.9 28mm and 35mm with prices 'TBA' which either never saw the light or sold in tiny numbers. _________________ Digital Cameras: EOS550D, Nex-3, Nikon D50, Sony R-1
MF Lenses:-
RE-Auto-Topcor: 28/2.8, 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 58/1.4, 100/2.8, 135/3.5
X-Fujinon: 28/3.5 EBC, 50/1.6 EBC, 135/2.5 EBC, 200/4.5 EBC
Fujinon: 135/3.5 T, 135/3.5 EBC
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8 ML, Contax Zeiss 28/2.8, Contax Zeiss 50/1.7, Yashica 50/2
Nikkor: 24/2.8 AI, 75-150/3.5 E, 80-200/4.5 AI, 100/2.8 E
Takumar: 24/3.5 S-M-C, 28/3.5 Super Tak, 28/3.5 SMC, 55/2 Super Tak
Tamron SP: 24-48, 35-80, 90/2.5
Werra: 50/2.8, 100/4
Misc MF: Sigma 21-35 MC, Konica AR 40/2.8, Vivitar S1 28-105/2.8-3.8, Juperter 37A 135/3.5, Auto Chinon 200/3.5
AF Lenses: Nikkor 28-200 G, EF 28-105 USM II (JP) |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
My RE 28 arrived today and I had a chance to take it for a spin, the pics are downloading as I type this, initial thoughts from looking at LCD & EVF are that it will be an excellent lens for cloudy days, hard high contrast light not so much, but that is the embedded jpg review, the proof will be in the raw.
I also brought my RE 58/1.4 & R 135/3.5 just in case and I do want more time with the 58(I was disappointed with the 1.4 after using the 1.8 ) to see if I can improve its results any from the last time I had it out, and I think I did get better results so I'm happy about that.
Pics shortly.... _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 2877
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:01 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Bring them (the pictures) on! _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Some quick NEX-7 test shots near MFD on a mini tripod with 2 second timer(No sharpening applied in LR4.3)
Black RE 58/1.4 @1.4(focus is just a wee bit off)
Larger: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8611504571_4c9bfebea7_k.jpg
@f4
Larger: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8612604540_70b9931e15_k.jpg
Black RE 28/2.8 @2.8
larger: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8400/8612606240_0fe399fb76_k.jpg
@5.6
Larger: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8611502619_54cad9e277_k.jpg
What surprises me is how little change in sharpness there is in the plane of focus between wide open and stopped down.(open them or the larger versions in new tabs and click back and fourth to see) _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
I got the 58mm 3.5 macro converted at the weekend after some work. The Tiawanese adapters in this batch aren`t as accurate as the earlier ones, they are lighter, seem to be made of cheaper material and the holes are slightly off on some.
The 58mm has a permanent pin which needs ground/removed if you are going to covert it to M42 using these adapters. if you don`t want a permanent fix, get a NEX! It also meant I couldn`t retain the bearing and has a clickless aperture.
I took the plunge after deciding I like these lenses very much, I paid very little for the lens and want to use it on FF, ergonomically the NEX just doesn`t suit my hands. The rest of my Topcors are reversible.
A couple of early shots. I`m using this on Dyxums April foolishness so hope to get a few more before the end of the month, time and weather permitting. No pp in the second, I`ve been shooting with +1 ev on the a99 most of the time on MF lens. The first was shot in Camera Clear mode, no other pp. The first at around f9-11, the second between 3.5 and 5.6
_________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Macca wrote: |
I`ve been shooting with +1 ev on the a99 most of the time on MF lens. |
Really? I do just the opposite. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
You don't live in England, metering in our weak sunshine (when there is some sunshine) is a whole different kettle of fish. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Yep, Ians right, anything from + 0.7 to 1.3 on a regular basis. More so with the A99 than my old A35 though. _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
The macro shots look nice so far, how is it with a busy background? _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Not got round to testing that yet, will post some when I do. _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
A shot with my Topcor R 135/3.5 @3.5
Large:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8542/8613733565_4fb1e880ec_k_d.jpg _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
more test shots...
RE 58/1.4
RE 28/2.8
_________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
58/1.4 & NEX-7
_________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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