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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:04 pm Post subject: Tools for repairing lenses |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
I'm looking for a good quality spanner wrench, set of screwdrivers and lens suction cups etc to begin my journey into the world of basic lens repairs.
Could someone point me in the right direction on eBay to the tools I need? _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Tools for repairing lenses |
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tomasg wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
I'm looking for a good quality spanner wrench, set of screwdrivers and lens suction cups etc to begin my journey into the world of basic lens repairs.
Could someone point me in the right direction on eBay to the tools I need? |
Based on my experience i would suggest to get more than one spanner, or at least one with different tips. For a start i think the ones on ebay are ok, of course they aren t the best quality, but they are relatively cheap and you can modify the tips as needed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional-DSLR-Camera-Lens-Repair-Spanner-Wrench-Opening-Open-Tool-3-Tips-NEW-/262249908362?hash=item3d0f50088a:g:sfQAAOSwqYBWnx2Y
this one is my preffered, but i modified the tips as needed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-Spanner-Wrenches-1-32-and-3-32-Tool-for-Lens-with-Rusty-Spots-As-Is/201649978238?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131227121020%26meid%3D9d5c509c0d1c4fd990357e8c0b147aef%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D201674310032
if you want something better:
https://www.thorlabs.com/thorproduct.cfm?partnumber=SPW801
For the screwdrivers i don t have any shop locally, i found what i need online, on Conrad (Wera and Wiha brands):
http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/Search.html?queryFromSuggest=true&search=Screw+driver
I don t use suction cups, instead when needed i use Uhu patafix (and clean the lens after i use it), these could be useful too:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rubber-Repair-Tool-Set-Ring-Filter-Removal-Spanner-Wrench-For-DSLR-Lens-37-86mm-/121172725483?hash=item1c36750eeb:g:YyIAAOxyFd1SLEzY
I found one of this (don t know the english name) is essential:
http://www.kelco.rs/katalog/detalji.php?ID=13447
Want to know if you put that focusing helicoid back into the right position, will the lens reach infinity again? Nothing better to measure the lenght of the various lens parts before you dismantle it and compare it after you put them back (and yes 0,5 mm can make a difference).
Apart from the tools, i would suggest to strart learning on cheap non complex lenses, Russian lenses tend to be simple a Helios 44-2 would be a nice lens to start.
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
tomasg has started you off with some good stuff. The spanners he shows should work well for you. A word of caution about the screwdrivers he provides a link to -- these are Phillips and you don't want Phillips. You want "cross point," which are usually found in "jewelers screwdrivers" sets, such as these:
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-66-039-Jewelers-Precision-Screwdriver/dp/B00002X29G
There are sellers of lens cups on eBay. This is a popular set:
Click here to see on Ebay
The calipers he shows are digital calipers. You can also use dial calipers that are probaby just as accurate. I have a couple of sets of dial calipers that I've used for many years. I just recently bought a set of digital ones, but I haven't even started using them yet. To me, the dial calipers are plenty good enough.
Also, tools that can come in handy for just basic measurement chores are regular calipers -- inside and outside:
You take measurements off the tips. I've seen these same sorts of calipers with digital measurement components. Another basic set of tools that are handy, but probably only occasionally necessary are micrometers, such as these two: outside and depth:
Depth micrometers can get pretty pricey, but they're worth it when you need them. _________________ Michael
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Micro-tools Europe is the best source of JIS screwdrivers Ed (while we're still in the EU). You will also need good quality small jewellers/modellers flat screw drivers for set screws and the like. I have a Starrett with a 1/16th blade, that's actually slightly too big for the smaller set screws - tends to damage the thread. I also have a cheap Rolsen screwdriver set from Maplins so I filed down the smallest flathead bit from that. I made a slight mistake when I got that set, I should have got the set that included extending rods for reach.
JIS - I have both JIS #00, #0 and #1 bits for the Starrett and individual plastic handled ones (rarely use #1).
http://www.micro-tools.de/en/Screwdrivers-oxid/Individual/JIS-Type/
update - cheap Starrett. get a .070" bit from micro-tools
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Starrett-LS555E-Screwdriver-Jewellers-100In-Starrett-555E-/122246223217?hash=item1c76715571:g:1DcAAOSwnQhXntN5
I use a piece of plastic pipe with double sided sticky tape over one end to remove eg name plates. Haven't yet run into a situation where I needed a lens element sucker - I have one of those coat hooks with a sucker standing by.
Another item I have had recourse to is a strap wrench.
I should also have got a lens spanner with splayed ends as recommended above... One of the characteristics of a good one is that the locking mechanism is effective so the spanner doesn't lose its fit and slip out of the slots, scratching something. Mine is a poor one, I tried to improve things by dremelling the horizontal bars which helped a bit.
Lens element cleaning accoutrements are the other thing to consider. I mainly use acetone*, cheap zeiss lens wipes from Asda, micro fibre cloths and lens pens.
* also essential to soften thread locker.
I did quite a bit of reading and hunting around for helicoid grease. A guy in Canada was selling Nikon grease for a while. Eventually I just shrugged my shoulders and picked up a cheap little tub of lightweight white lithium grease off ebay. Its worked well on eg the Tamron Nestars etc and other similar lenses. But I have no real idea about its durability.
That's all I can think of at the mo... _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Thank you for all your replies, plenty of good information and recommendations. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
You'll eventually need more than one spanner. I have two, and I still long for that thorlabs thing .
Do not buy jeweler's screwdrivers. Get Vessel 910's - you'll thank me when you tackle you first Nikkor mount screw.
I never used a suction cup. Perhaps I do need one. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've got this set of Moody screwdrives from Microtools and I'm very pleased with them.
http://www.micro-tools.de/en/Screwdrivers-oxid/Individual/JIS-Type/JIS-Type-S-Driver-Set-Pollicis.html _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Thanks marcusBMG & Lloydy for your recommendations from Micro-Tools Europe. Their set of Moody JIS screwdrivers are back in stock and I've just ordered a set. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
I strongly (!) recommend this Flexiclamps!
Bought this set many, many years ago and never regretted it.
http://www.micro-tools.de/en/Flexi-Clamps-oxid/Flexiclamp-Set-Of-20.html _________________ my Ebay auctions
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
cheap Starrett. get a .070" bit from micro-tools |
Why this size and type in particular? _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
marcusBMG wrote: |
cheap Starrett. get a .070" (~ <2mm) bit from micro-tools |
Why this size and type in particular? |
Based on typical size of grub (set) screws. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:20 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Just to add, the tiny grub screws are often found on lens sleeves and barrels that are used to keep them in place. I've found these to be the most common locations for them. Sometimes you will find some that are even smaller than 0.070" wide. I have some small blade screwdrivers that are maybe .040" or .050" that I use for the really small ones. _________________ Michael
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DigiChromeEd
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:50 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
_________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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