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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Wish I had the $$$$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RE-Auto-Topcor-1-8-85mm-f-Exakta-Topcon-/251135425196?pt=US_Vintage_Cameras&hash=item3a78d67aac _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
They can be found for far less _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Since purchasing my Topcor 100mm, I was not able to use it fully. The lens had obviously been opened and put back together with a very short infinity stop. THEN I opened it to fix that... and it became unusable. I just got it back from Marc Jensen after a CLA and am now able to fully enjoy it. Sure is a sharp lens right from f/2.8.
(manipulated)
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Woodrim |
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mlimages
Joined: 05 Dec 2013 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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mlimages wrote:
Thank you for the excellent sample pictures, Look great!! |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:29 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I missed this post first time around,what a stunning lens and you did amazingly well with those seagulls in the first set.
Interesting "bubbles" in the last one (I like bubble bokeh or OOF),I wonder if you had something manmade with the same background what would it look like? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:04 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
mo wrote: |
I missed this post first time around,what a stunning lens and you did amazingly well with those seagulls in the first set.
Interesting "bubbles" in the last one (I like bubble bokeh or OOF),I wonder if you had something manmade with the same background what would it look like? |
Thanks. The only man made things there were gravestones. This was in a very old (by US standards) graveyard in downtown Charleston. It's an amazingly beautiful place if you can get past the stigma of it being a graveyard. I was working the bokeh for best effects with some successes and some failures. Getting the right distances before and after can be challenging, and of course I had to be respectful of where I was standing. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:17 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I understand your restraints regarding the surrounding area.
I just twigged to something you said,for bubble bokeh you need the lens to be wide open that's a given. I have never thought about taking into account the distance between you and subject then distance to background ( is that what you were meaning? )...I knew purely about the subject and background that creates the bubble highlights...but never thought about the distances . _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:35 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Yes, Miora, distances are critical. Since this is my thread from the beginning, I'll allow myself to do a very brief diversion. Here are two images, also from the weekend and also in the graveyard. I moved closer to the leaves in one shot to increase the size of the bokeh rings. Differences will also occur if the background highlights are closer or farther away. Sometimes it doesn't work at all; all part of the challenge.
These images from a different lens - Meyer Optik Görlitz Primotar 80mm f/3.5
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:37 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Distance to subject is essentially focus throw. The closer you focus, the bigger the background blur and circles, the farther - eventually they become in focus. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:45 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for answering my question,back on topic now (my apologies) _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Looks good woodrim, glad it's working right for you now.
My 85/1.8 is off to be cleaned and lubed, can't wait to get it back. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Sending it to Marc? Hmmmm, maybe he'll mistakenly ship it to me. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Yes to Marc, not so much to sending it to you, unless you have a M 50 Lux to trade... _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 394 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
Love those Topcors. Are there adapters for Canon EF? |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Frenched: I really don't know Canon, but if I had to guess, I'd say no adapters. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 973 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
I've found this Exakta to Canon EOS adapter :
Click here to see on Ebay
Note - i have no experience with Canon....
another note: some say Exakta/Topcon will fit Exakta but Exakta will not fit Exakta/Topcon
again... i can't verify and/or have any proof of that.... _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, FUJI FILM CO. FUJINON L 2/5cm
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:47 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
HI Woodrim,
Nice shots! I have this lens and haven't really ever put it through its paces - now I guess I have to!
You are correct that Topcon was used by military personnel. The US Navy purchased a number of them for use in the 60s, and probably the 70s as well. In the US Topcons were distributed for a while by the Charles Besler company (as in Besler enlargers, etc.), and were marked Besler Topcons. They were always quite high priced. I believe it was the Topcon RE Super AKA the Super D that was the first SLR with an internal (built into the mirror) light meter. The last, best model was the Super DM that had a motor drive assembly. Very high class cameras - but they were crippled with the narrow throated Exacta lens mount which severly limited lens design.
The internal diaphragm in the RE Auto Topcors, like your 100 /f 2.8, have linkages which stick out the back and will very often interfere with Exacta -> Canon EOS adapters. I had to very carefully shave off the tiniest bit of the aperture linkage on the back of the lens to get it to work for me. Also you need to get the correct kind of adapter that has clearance channels for all the Topcon linkages. I'll post photos tomorrow of the type I use.
All the best,
Paul _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
Here are the photos I promised.
The first is of the EXActa/Topcon -> EOS adapter I use. Note how it has a cutout at 10 o'clock to 1 o'clock near the outer edge. It also has an annular grove closer to the center. Both of these features should be present in the adapter for it to work with Topcon lenses.
The second photo shows the back end of an RE, Auto Topcor lens, in this case, the 35mm f/2.8. In order to allow the aperture to work freely when mounted on the Exacta adapter, I had to remove a tiny bit of metal from the top of pin 1 in the photo.
Works fine now when mounted to the Canon.
I apologize if I have hijacked the post - Your photos are really amazing!
Best,
Paul
_________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Woodrim, looks like a great lens and you used to great effect! Very nice work. Never sell it- except to me!
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:08 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Mir wrote: |
I've found this Exakta to Canon EOS adapter :
Click here to see on Ebay
Note - i have no experience with Canon....
another note: some say Exakta/Topcon will fit Exakta but Exakta will not fit Exakta/Topcon
again... i can't verify and/or have any proof of that.... |
Thank you to all for the comments. I found Mir's comment interesting and I do remember reading this once before, but do not remember any details. I have an Exakta/Topcon adapter for NEX, but it doesn't catch the pins that lock it in place. The Topcor lenses come up just short, but I have another lens with Exakta mount that stops nearly 2mm short of the catch. Anyone else have this issue? Maybe just a bad adapter? _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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KhanX
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 430 Location: Bangkok, Thailand, München, Göttingen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:29 am Post subject: |
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KhanX wrote:
Oh, very good sharpness and color rendition. _________________ Camera : Leica M8, Sony Nex5, Sigma SD14, Canon 5D, Olympus E-1, Panasonic DMC L1, Pentax K10D Grand Prix, Nikon D1X, Contax RTS III, Contax 167MT, Exakta RTL1000, Minolta X-700, Canon T90, Canon F-1, Pentacon Six TL
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Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
Macro : Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.8, Vivitar VMC 100mm f2.8 Macro, Panagor PMC 90mm f2.8, Edicar 90mm f2.8 Macro, Nikon Micro 55mm f3.5, Takumar 50mm f4 Macro, Nikon Non AI 55mm f3.5 Micro, SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro, Canon FD 100mm f4 Macro, Canon FD 200mm f4 Macro, Volna-9 50mm f2.8
Short tele : Pentacon Six 120mm f2.8, Carl Zeiss Contax T* 100mm f2, Meyer optik Trioplan 100MM F2.8, Porst 135mm f1.8, Sigmatel ys 135mm f1.8, Schneider 135mm f3.5, Makinon 135mm f3.5, Komura 135mm f3.5, Hexanon 100mm f2.8, Schneider Variogon 80-240mm 4.5, Schneider 135mm f4
Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
More from this wonderful lens...
And this one is a merge of 18 images. Lots of effort without much more than just good resolution...
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Looks like you two are getting along well. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:58 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
Great pics from a great lens & photographer.
To I have several Exakta to EOS adapters. Some work with Topcon RE's and some don't - it depends if they have the appropriate cut-outs for the auto aperture/meter linkages on the Topcons. Also NONE of these adapters clear the mirror on a 5D Mark II. If you have a crop body Canon - no problem.
I purchased one these Topcon to M42 coverter kits: Click here to see on Ebay , but even with the rear light shade removed, it still interferes with the mirror travel on the 5D MII.
By the way, I just got my copy of the 100 f/2.8 back from Marc (had a sluggish and oily diaphragm as well as a gummed up helical). He does superb work!
Best,
Paul _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:38 am Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
amazing shots! _________________ ________________________________________________________
I buy lots of lenses and sometimes I even use them... |
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