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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Yes, they may be the same in almost every regard but only the Tokina is the "Bokina". |
does that make the Series 1 a Bokitar? _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
"Bokitar", that's actually a good one _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I'm still calling my Series 1 Bokitar from now on
It has the same bokeh characteristics as the Tokina and should be recognised as such _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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alangeli
Joined: 05 Apr 2013 Posts: 1 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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alangeli wrote:
Got my Vivitar Bokina today. Here the very first shots with Canon 5D3:
F/2.5
F/5.6
What a lens !!
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
alangeli wrote: |
Got my Vivitar Bokina today. Here the very first shots with Canon 5D3:
F/2.5
F/5.6
What a lens !! |
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Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Congratulations alangeli, I'm sure that you'll keep that lens forever and capture many wonderful images with it. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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simbon4o
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 390 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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simbon4o wrote:
The only lens that can replace the bokina is Zuiko 90 2.0. No other lens will replace my bokina _________________ 10-300мм 4.0 - 1.2 - 4.5 NIKON&Sony bodies / Sony 10-18, Pentax 28 2.8 II, CZJ 35 2.4, Nikkor DX 35 1.8, Samyang 35 1.4, KMZ 50 1.7, FDn 50 1.2 L, Nikkor 55 2.8, Rokkor 58 1.2, Soligor 85 1.8 Preset, Samyang 85 1.4, Canon FDn 85 1.2 L, Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, Canon FDn 135mm 2.0, Nikkor 180 2.8 ED, Tair 300 4.5
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:16 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Was sitting on my front porch this evening as the sun was setting. Series 1 Bokina at f/2.5 using NEX-5N...
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2698 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:43 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Was sitting on my front porch this evening as the sun was setting. Series 1 Bokina at f/2.5 using NEX-5N...
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gorgeous image _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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eno789
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 159 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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eno789 wrote:
California Wildflower - Crimson Columbine by B Zhou, on Flickr
Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 Macro, NEX 5N _________________ Sharpness from lenses; Softness from me.
Nikon DSLR, Sony Mirrorless, Panasonic mu-4/3 - Having fun with MF lenses
https://www.flickr.com/groups/painterly_bokeh |
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Billou
Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 169 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
Woodrim, this is beautiful... Well done. |
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thundertwin72
Joined: 28 Sep 2011 Posts: 43 Location: Barcelona
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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thundertwin72 wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Was sitting on my front porch this evening as the sun was setting. Series 1 Bokina at f/2.5 using NEX-5N...
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A beautiful and wonderful image, congratulations.
Regards. _________________
DSLR: Canon 50D, Canon 1000D.
EVIL: Olympus e-pl1, Fuji X-E1.
SLR: Fujica ST801, Praktica MTL5B, Praktica MTL50, Pentax MX, Pentax ME Super, Pentax K1000, Canon A1, Canon AE1 Program, Canon T60, Canon EF, Canon FTb QL, Minolta SRT-101, Minolta XG9, Nikon FE2, Nikon FM2n, Nikon FM, Nikon FE, Nikon FA, Olympus OM-1, Olympus OM-10, Yashica FX-3, Yashica FX-3 Super 2000, Contax 137MA Quartz, Contax RTS, Zenit E, Zenit EM, Зенит ET, Contaflex II, Contaflex IV, Киев 60 TTL.
Rangefinder: ФЗД-2, Зоркий-4, Киев-4.
Rangefinder fixed lens: Yashica Electro GSN, Yashica Electro GX, Yashica Minister D, Yashica Lynx 14E, Yashica Lynx 5000E, Canonet QL17, Olympus 35RC.
TLR: Flexaret II Flexaret IIa, Flexaret IIIa, Flexaret IV, Flexaret IVa, Flexaret Va, Flexaret VI Automat, Flexaret VIa Automat, Flexaret Standard, Flexaret VII Automat, Weltaflex, Rolleicord Va, Yashica Mat 124G.
LENSES:
(m42): Chinon 2.5/24, Super Takumar 3.5/28, Pentacon 2.8/29, Pentacon 3.5/30, Chinon Auto 2.8/35, Super Takumar 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 1.4/50,EBC Fujinon 1.4/50, Pentacon 1.8/50, EBC Fujinon 1.8/55, Helios 44-2 2/58, Helios 44M 2/58, Helios-44M4 2/58, Vivitar Series 1 2.5/90, Pentacon 2.8/135, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, MC Юпитер-37AM 3.5/135, Kenlock 4/200, Jupiter-21M 4.5/200.
(PK): SMC Pentax-M 1.4/50, SMC Pentax-M 1.7/50, SMC Pentax-A 1.7/50, Kiron 2.8/105.
(C/Y): Yashica ML 1.9/50, Yashica ML 1.7/50, Vivitar 2.8/28, Panagor 2.8/90, Zeiss Planar *T 1.4/50, Zeiss Planar *T 1.7/50.
(FD): Soligor 2.5/28, Canon FD 1.4/50, Canon FD 1.4/50 SSC, Canon FDn 1.4/50, Canon FD 1.8/50 SC, Canon FDn 1.8/50, Vivitar 2.8/55.
(MD): Rokkor PF 1.7/50, Rokkor MD 1.7/50.
(F): Nikkor AI-S 2/35, Nikkor AI 2.8/35, Nikkor AI 1.4/50, Nikkor AI-S 1.4/50, Nikkor AI-S 1.8/50 "Long Nose", Nikkor AI-S 1.8/50, E Series 1.8/50, Nikkor AI 2/50, МС Гелиос-81Н 2/50, Panagor 3/55, Hoya 2.8/135, Hoya 3.5/35-105.
(OM): Zuiko Auto-S 1.8/50.
(Konica AR):Hexanon 1.8/40.
(Pentacon Six): MC Волна-3 2.8/80.
(LTM): Юпитер-8 2/50, И-26м 2,8/52.
(Contax/Kiev): Юпитер-8М f2/5cm.
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
What is the minimum working distance (from the front of the lens not from the sensor plane) for this lens,
either Tokina or Vivitar (without and with the proprietary 1:1 extender)? |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
You can use calculators like this to work out focus distances
http://www.mystd.de/album/calculator/
1:1 with 90mm lens is focus distance of 0.2m. relate that to the extension of your lens and you can figure out the CWD _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
nice shot woodrim !
I found my copy in New Zealand, LN, in MD mount, and had to pay something like 275 for it. Maybe more. Of course I read all the stories about it first LOL.
DSC02068 by unoh7, on Flickr
Around the same time I also found a 105/2.5 Kiron, which is scratch free but has some haze. It's still wildly sharp, but I doubt it has the contrast it should: but it was only 125USD.
I use 90s alot, bought the at-x for my nex-5, where it was outstanding.
But one day I did a shootout with my little TE90 thin, and found it was also very good on the Nex and much easier to carry! Of course the TE is an everyday 90 and can't do the close work, plus it does not do OOF like the Bokina, but it's mobility trumped those issues.
Now I shoot 95% with:
DSC02767 by unoh7, A7 + Bokina @ f/4ish
and my two main 90s are the little CV 90/3.5 APO and the ultra-modern 90/2.5 Leica.
But I still have great affection for the Bokina, and it really does deliver on the A7
DSC02790 by unoh7, A7 Bokina
DSC02810 by unoh7, A7 Bokina
Now, to be fair the A7 makes good bokeh with nearly any lens--a side effect of it's thick filter stack I suspect, but the tokina seems especially creamy
For reference (shot on m9):
L1021320 by unoh7, CV 90/3.5 APO @ f/5.6
Boardman Pass by unoh7, Leica 90/2.5 f/5.6
I think the Bokina can easily compete with these lenses at infinity, but I'm too fat to drag it up to really see _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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mlnola
Joined: 14 Dec 2015 Posts: 1 Location: new orleans
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:37 am Post subject: |
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mlnola wrote:
This post has been invigorating,
I have several vivitar 90mm 2.5 used with Minolta then canon with FD EOS adapter
I jumped ship for nikon 800E and just edit purchased bokina on ebay $410 hopefully good shape with 1.1 adalter, cases etc.
Will reply with results _________________ Tony with mlnola
Minolta to Canon to Nikon |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:11 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
uhoh7: Given your discriminating taste in lenses, it is a great endorsement. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Eriksen
Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 153
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Eriksen wrote:
This is a very good thread for comparing the best lenses in this class, but I can´t find any comments or pictures taken with the Yashica 100mm 3.5 which also is a very good lens. Can this lens be just as good or better than the Bokina? |
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:10 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Eriksen wrote: |
This is a very good thread for comparing the best lenses in this class, but I can´t find any comments or pictures taken with the Yashica 100mm 3.5 which also is a very good lens. Can this lens be just as good or better than the Bokina? |
The 90mm 2.5 is in a different class. The "legendary" class. There isn't any comparison from any other lens. _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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piggsy
Joined: 04 May 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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piggsy wrote:
Some from the Bokina from spring/summer's big butterfly migration of caper white butterflies. The whole album of all of 'em is over here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/piggsyface/sets/72157679920489846 but these are just the bokina ones.
Cross polarised + diffused flash, + stacked raynox 150+250, focus stacks
Cross polarised + diffused flash, raynox 150 focus stack
Natural light, lens only
Diffused flash, lens only
Cross polarised flash, raynox 250
Natural light focus stacks
Also, after buying it in April 2016 and relying on someone to on-ship it to me from the US, I finally, finally got hold of the native 1:1 macro extender for this thing. Just in time for me to have gotten big into using cross polarised flash for macro and needing a new diameter cir-pl to use it properly . I can fit it to my raynox but by then you're at about 2x magnification on 2x crop minimum _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/piggsyface/
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
SHARP. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7776 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Lloydy wrote:
WOW.....that is impressive. Not just the lens, the technique and skills are just as impressive. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
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piggsy
Joined: 04 May 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:27 am Post subject: |
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piggsy wrote:
Should mention most of those natural light ones are at F2.5 also. That's the real strength of it, I think - I have other macros that are lighter, better corrected, longer, whatever, but the bokina's versatility where you get truly excellent starting material out of it from f2.5 to f16 (and f22 perfectly usable also) even on 2x crop is what pushes it into the next level. Should also credit Neat Image software with some of the sharpness too I think
Lloydy wrote: |
WOW.....that is impressive. Not just the lens, the technique and skills are just as impressive. |
Thanks! The closeups of the caper white's face were probably the hardest PP job I've ever had to do, it's really a job for a bi-telecentric "proper" high magnification optic I think - caper whites aren't the largest butterflies there are. Having things change in dimensions in front of and behind the focal point, and all those scales and protruding hairs, means a lot of cleaning up focus stacks with a 4px size brush . There are a few things like dark OOF areas and the antenna seeming to change position as they cross different contrasting surfaces that look like errors in PP but are actually there in single exposures as well. But, really, with stacked diopters and a 2x crop factor and on digital you're so far beyond the magnification this was ever designed for it's kind of amazing to get anything good out of it at all _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/piggsyface/
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Very impressive work piggsy. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Wonderful shots piggsy, thanks for sharing. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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