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AhamB
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AhamB wrote:
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| A bit of purple fringing with the Tokina, which can be fixed easily enough, but they appear to be very close in terms of sharpness. |
I've said this before, but you can't correct longitudinal CA or purple fringing when it's superimposed on your main subject (in case of macro shots). When you try to desatureate it you mess up the subject as well... This, and the glow makes the Tokina less usable wide open.
Not that you'd shoot scenes like this very often, but I think the Tokina wouldn't look as good here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/810600/7#7736422  |
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symphonic
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This lens is quite scarce on ebay and basicly everywhere else, I've never seen one in several times I looked recently. Is this because it was made in a small number of copies or because the people don't ever think of selling theirs? 
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JerryMK
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JerryMK wrote:
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| This lens is quite scarce on ebay and basicly everywhere else, I've never seen one in several times I looked recently. Is this because it was made in a small number of copies or because the people don't ever think of selling theirs? |
Keep looking! I sold three of them already on Ebay. Kept one and will never sell that on  |
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JerryMK
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JerryMK wrote:
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| This lens is quite scarce on ebay and basicly everywhere else, I've never seen one in several times I looked recently. Is this because it was made in a small number of copies or because the people don't ever think of selling theirs? |
Keep looking! I sold three of them already on Ebay. Kept one and will never sell that on |
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AhamB
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
I may sell mine some time, but it's an unconverted FD version (so close-up/macro only). That also means the price will be pretty low of course.
I have to to try some replacements first though (I have one or two in mind). |
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cooltouch
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
| AhamB wrote: |
| cooltouch wrote: |
| A bit of purple fringing with the Tokina, which can be fixed easily enough, but they appear to be very close in terms of sharpness. |
I've said this before, but you can't correct longitudinal CA or purple fringing when it's superimposed on your main subject (in case of macro shots). When you try to desatureate it you mess up the subject as well... This, and the glow makes the Tokina less usable wide open. |
I agree about the glow, but I'm not sure I'm in complete agreement with your comments regarding CA. So I d/l'd your Opel badge comparision and tried the one-click purple fringe fix in Paint Shop Pro. And got this:
If you zoom in to 200% or so you can still see a tiny amount of purple fringing, but it's gone for all practical purposes.
Or was I misunderstanding your original comment? Because the above was what I meant about getting rid of the purple fringing.
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AhamB
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
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| Or was I misunderstanding your original comment? Because the above was what I meant about getting rid of the purple fringing. |
Yeah, it's gone there and that's indeed an example where PF correction can actually be done basically non-destructively. I was talking about LoCA in macro shots however, where the CA is spread out over a larger area. which includes the subject and/or coloured background which you don't want to desaturate.
I must say though that this has played up more strongly when I was using the Tokina on a crop camera (40D) -- it's better on my 5D.
I'll see if I can turn up a few shots from my 40D that demonstrate what I'm talking about. |
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cooltouch
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cooltouch wrote:
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I was talking about LoCA in macro shots however, where the CA is spread out over a larger area. which includes the subject and/or coloured background which you don't want to desaturate.
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Okay, I follow you. In fact, I have run into this sort of thing before, but it wasn't really caused by the lens in my case. It was a quirk of the film, or perhaps the scanner, where backlit subjects -- tree branches in winter -- took on a red tinge. It was extremely difficult getting rid of this. Paint Shop Pro also has a CA correction filter where you can zero in on exactly what color you want removed, but if there is any of that color in an area of the photo you don't want messed with, well, too bad!  I guess you're talking more about that sort of situation, eh?
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Nelson
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I may need your advices
I am planning to convert an FD AT-X to EF
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Nelson
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Nelson wrote:
the tamron in impressive !
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jetulio
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jetulio wrote:
Hi. After reading this a other posts about this lens, I finally managed to buy one in mint condition at ebay. It's a FD mount one and I use it on a nex-6 with an adapter. Here are my first shots, just for checking. Hopefully I'll learn more about using it and will improve the results, but it's quite amazing:
_DSC5861 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5842 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5852 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5790 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5860 por Jetulio, en Flickr
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Pancolart
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Pancolart wrote:
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Hi. After reading this a other posts about this lens, I finally managed to buy one in mint condition at ebay. It's a FD mount one and I use it on a nex-6 with an adapter. Here are my first shots, just for checking. Hopefully I'll learn more about using it and will improve the results, but it's quite amazing:
_DSC5861 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5842 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5852 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5790 por Jetulio, en Flickr
_DSC5860 por Jetulio, en Flickr
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woodrim
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The NEX is a very good camera to use with this lens. Do you have the CA control option enabled in your NEX? I find it amazing how well it works; it has made several of my lenses nearly perfect.
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jetulio
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jetulio wrote:
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| The NEX is a very good camera to use with this lens. Do you have the CA control option enabled in your NEX? I find it amazing how well it works; it has made several of my lenses nearly perfect. |
Aha, the CA... maybe. Sorry about my ignorance, but, what is that?  I use the focus peaking option but it works for me better the MF assist.
Pancolart, thanks for uploading my photos properly, as I'm having problems to insert them and don't know why.
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jetulio
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jetulio wrote:
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| The NEX is a very good camera to use with this lens. Do you have the CA control option enabled in your NEX? I find it amazing how well it works; it has made several of my lenses nearly perfect. |
Aha, the CA... maybe. Sorry about my ignorance, but, what is that? I use the focus peaking option but it works for me better the MF assist.
Pancolart, thanks for uploading my photos properly, as I'm having problems to insert them and don't know why.
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Is it maybe a Color Aberration correction? I always use RAW files, so I think that doesn't affect, does it? |
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parabellumfoto
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parabellumfoto wrote:
| jetulio wrote: |
| jetulio wrote: |
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| The NEX is a very good camera to use with this lens. Do you have the CA control option enabled in your NEX? I find it amazing how well it works; it has made several of my lenses nearly perfect. |
Aha, the CA... maybe. Sorry about my ignorance, but, what is that? I use the focus peaking option but it works for me better the MF assist.
Pancolart, thanks for uploading my photos properly, as I'm having problems to insert them and don't know why.
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Is it maybe a Color Aberration correction? I always use RAW files, so I think that doesn't affect, does it? |
Chromatic aberration.
For example: When there is contrasting colour like a branch in front of the blue sky look for a bluish tinge along the edge of the tree branch.
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Maybe if you don't know what it is, you aren't experiencing it, which suggests your camera has the option set to on. I don't recall where in the menu it is and I would have to search for it, but if you browse through the settings, you'll find it. I think it is on for raw as well, but can't be absolutely sure. I have tried to use raw and have done some reading about processing raw, but I can't get as good an image from raw as the jpg from the camera - with some minor Photoshop adjustments; mostly contrast.
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RSalles wrote:
Damn it!
_DSC5842 por Jetulio, no Flickr
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hifisapi wrote:
FWIW, I have the lester dine kiron 105mm f2.8 macro lens and I have tested/used it at both infinity and macro ranges.
I found it to be very sharp, very little CA, and excellent contrast and flare resistance.
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:17 am Post subject: A quick Saturday Zeiss 100 2 against Tokina 90 2.5 shootout |
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: A quick Saturday Zeiss 100 2 against Tokina 90 2.5 shoot |
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for some reason your pics are not displayed for me I get links only
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To my eyes the Zeiss has the slightly deeper color saturation specifically the blacks of the lens.
However the Tokina keeps up very well in the sharpness department.
The bokeh is nice in both.
(Both shot with Hood)
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RAART wrote:
Tamron SP90mm F2.5
All taken handheld without any PP... few on very cloudy day and few late in the evening.
100% crops:
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Billou wrote:
I took my Bokina out today ! This lens always delivers. I love it.
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Räbenfluch wrote:
The last one, with the ladybug, blows my mind...The complementary contrast of the red and the green is just freqking awesome!
I lift my hat for this one
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The last one, with the ladybug, blows my mind...The complementary contrast of the red and the green is just freqking awesome!
I lift my hat for this one
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Agreed, awesome composition.
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