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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
memetph wrote: |
Minolta had also a 50 1.7.
There are different options:
The Soligor is a fake f1.8
The Minolta is actually a f1.8
The Minolta is a 1.8 reduced to f2 ( like the 55mm Takumar) |
1- Look at the ring stop
The max aperture position (the pointer) for soligor lens is at ~f:2 and on the minolta at ~f:2.4
That is certainly the TRUE opening
2- I will think that the soligor is not from minolta but from seagull (china) which made a minolta copy (body and lens)
I think that because front engraving does not seem of very high quality _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Watching my lens , I do not see this difference. Perhaps are you right . It must be a good copy ( not only cosmetic ) because the IR focusing mark is at the same place.
PS It seems that Seagull produced some Minolta under licence. The 50mm was a 1.8 . Bravo ! |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
PBFACTS wrote: |
memetph wrote: |
Minolta had also a 50 1.7.
There are different options:
The Soligor is a fake f1.8
The Minolta is actually a f1.8
The Minolta is a 1.8 reduced to f2 ( like the 55mm Takumar) |
1- Look at the ring stop
The max aperture position (the pointer) for soligor lens is at ~f:2 and on the minolta at ~f:2.4
That is certainly the TRUE opening
2- I think that the soligor is not from minolta but from seagull (china) which made a minolta copy (body and lens)
(quality of front engraving seems poor) |
_________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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OPAL
Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 354
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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OPAL wrote:
ovim wrote: |
I don't have this lens anymore but I found these pics from my flickr account.I think it was made by Komine and it has also been sold as Elicar, Vivitar etc. Sorry I don't have the serial:oops:
Vivitar 2.5/90mm Macro
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I own this macro lens for many year, and use it now with adaptor sucessfully on my SONY A7! |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Funny what "New Old Stock" items do to me when i see them.... it's hard to resist these brandnew and shiny old things... especially at extremely low prices!
I bought a box full of "left-overs" and this came with it: Soligor S/M 28-70mm (MD) and a Soligor 1.7/50 (PK). Took a few quick shots with that zoom, first impressions look good! I had ever seen a standard 50mm Soligor prime before though.
Soligor S/M 28-70mm by René Maly, on Flickr
Soligor MC 50mm f/1.7 by René Maly, on Flickr _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Wow, another Soligor 50mm, and this time f/1.7! Have you tested the lens? _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Have you tested the lens? |
No, not yet! Will do when i get the time... lot's of work until saturday afternoon.... _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
My latest acquisition: uncommon 450mm f8, T xxxxxx serial.
T serial marks this down as a Tamron, which is why I was interested to check it out. Not had much luck with previous f8's of this type - dogs! grey day so just snapped a couple of test pics of the neighbours chimney on the K5. Looks promising: good resolution and little fringing straight from f8. 100% crops, f8, f11.
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
My latest acquisition: uncommon 450mm f8, T xxxxxx serial.
T serial marks this down as a Tamron, which is why I was interested to check it out.
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here infos :
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/old-lens/olm450f8.htm _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Thanks for that PBFACTS I did google tamron 450mm but didn't find anything. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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TedHarris
Joined: 10 Sep 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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TedHarris wrote:
I have a couple of Soligor lenses I haven't seen in this thread. A 400/6.3 and a 135/2.8. My apologies if they've had a mention and I missed it.
An image from each:
A crop from the full frame of the moon with the 400
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I want to reshoot the moon with a Helios 3X teleconverter but so far I've not had the combination of clear sky and visible moon.
A crop from the centre of the full frame taken with the 135
_________________ Lenses
Voigtländer DKL: 1:2/40, 1:2,8/50, 1:3,4/90, 1:4/135, & 1:4/200
Zeiss M42: 2,4/35, & 1,8/50
Kiron OM: 24/2
Soligor M42: 135/1:2.8, 400/1:6.3
Helios M42: 3X |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
My 135 is slightly different - M163**** serial number with different style engraving, I think yours is newer? It's a great lens, one of the first MF lenses I bought and one I won't sell, it's plenty sharp and has great character.
Your 400 is the same as mine, very similar serial number, and is another good lens. I have to say that my Vivitar 400 / 5.6 is a sharper, but that doesn't make the Soligor a bad lens, because it isn't. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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TedHarris
Joined: 10 Sep 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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TedHarris wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
My 135 is slightly different - M163**** serial number with different style engraving, I think yours is newer? It's a great lens, one of the first MF lenses I bought and one I won't sell, it's plenty sharp and has great character.
Your 400 is the same as mine, very similar serial number, and is another good lens. I have to say that my Vivitar 400 / 5.6 is a sharper, but that doesn't make the Soligor a bad lens, because it isn't. |
If I've understood what been in previous posts and in the 28mm thread my 135 was made by Sun in 1986. I only got it today in a charity shop. The 400 I picked up again in a charity shop last September, pictures taken with it on its first outing were chosen for publication over ones taken with a lens costing 100 times as much. _________________ Lenses
Voigtländer DKL: 1:2/40, 1:2,8/50, 1:3,4/90, 1:4/135, & 1:4/200
Zeiss M42: 2,4/35, & 1,8/50
Kiron OM: 24/2
Soligor M42: 135/1:2.8, 400/1:6.3
Helios M42: 3X |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
See post above re soligor (tamron) 450mm + pics
Now my question is: is this H-xxxxxx serial soligor 450mm the same lens?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351402691205?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
UPDATE and this one is clearly different. 2xxxxx serial = ? sun
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock...
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I'd say the 450 is the same series as the 400. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
I'd say the 450 is the same series as the 400. |
sorry lloydy I don't follow. Anyway there are at least 3 versions (see updated post above): T-xxxxxx (tamron); Hxxxxxx (?tokina); 27xxxxx (? sun). _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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TedHarris
Joined: 10 Sep 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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TedHarris wrote:
The moon taken with Soligor 400/6.3 and Helios 3x teleconverter.
_________________ Lenses
Voigtländer DKL: 1:2/40, 1:2,8/50, 1:3,4/90, 1:4/135, & 1:4/200
Zeiss M42: 2,4/35, & 1,8/50
Kiron OM: 24/2
Soligor M42: 135/1:2.8, 400/1:6.3
Helios M42: 3X |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:50 pm Post subject: 2xxxxxx soligors |
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marcusBMG wrote:
By coincidence, both opportunistically purchased soligors arrived today, and both are classic style chrome eared t-mount 2xxxxx serials. Does that indicate Sun?
35mm f2.8
300mm f5.5
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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Newfie
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Posts: 242 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Newfie wrote:
Your serial numbers on both lenses begin with 2 which I believe indicate they are Sun made.
They should do well for you.
Regards,
Gavin _________________ Photography - What a ride
Accura Supertel 135/2.8 PRESET ,Soligor 135mm/ f2.8 Preset, Soligor 135mm/f3.5 Preset (Tokina) Soligor 135mm/2.8 Preset (Tameron) Super Lentar 35mm/ f2,8 Preset (Tokina) Auto Chinon 35/ f2.8, Ensinor 24mm/ f2.8, Ensinor 135mm/ f2.8, Helios 40-2 85mm/ f 1.5, Helios 44-6 58mm/ f2.0, Pentacon 50mm/ f1.8, Spiratone 28mm/3.5, Spiratone 105mm/ 2.5, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Kiron) , SMC Tak 55mm/1.8, Cimko 28mm/ f2.8 Macro, Accura Supertel 105mm/ f2.4, Sun 38-90/ f3.5 Y/S Zoom, , Soligor 35-105/ f 3.5 Zoom (Tokina) , Access 28-70 P-MC / f2.8-4.2, , , Paragon 11 28mm / f2.8 Macro, Aetna Rokunar 28mm / f2.8 Macro |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:33 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Got my 1st Soligor, and it's the MC 300mm f/4.5.
From what I can gather about this model, it's sourced from Cimko due to the 'diamond arrow'. EDIT: I believe it's actually made by Sun Optics.
f/4.5 isn't usable, lacking sharpness. The next stop on the ring is f/8! (Maybe they should have labeled this a 300mm f/8!)
Here's where results are sharp, and good to f/13.
Pleasantly surprised how light it is, and how good the image is once stopped down. No aberrations, or heavy fringing detected.
It has a pretty deep built-in lens hood. Only detraction is it has no tripod collar. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
My Flickr
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Soligor C/D 35-105mm f3.5 macro
all @f3.5
_________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1304 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: soligor (tamron) 350mm f5.6 |
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marcusBMG wrote:
I wasn't impressed with a chrome eared 9xxxx one, but this T-xxxxx tamron made one is good!
f8, samsung NX20.
_________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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bychance
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 345 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:27 am Post subject: |
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bychance wrote:
Someone has loved that lens in the past, looks well used but not abused. I think I'm begining to prefer lenses that look like that as opposed to mint. _________________ I got where I am by avoiding where I was going.
Now where was I? |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
bychance wrote: |
Someone has loved that lens in the past, looks well used but not abused. I think I'm begining to prefer lenses that look like that as opposed to mint. |
+100 !
I have some looking like that and they're all very good. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
The Tamron made Soligors are in general good lenses. I have the 250mm f/4.5 which I love _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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