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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:39 pm Post subject: That's not a lens, this is a lens! |
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blotafton wrote:
Let's see if anyone can correctly ID them!
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
That should be Takumar lenses... 55mm 1.8 and 6x7 55mm 3.5
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
What's there to ID? Clearly a MF Pentax, older, so 6x7, distance scale to 10m so 55mm focal distance, aperture scale is visible. So 6x7 Takumar 55/3.5. The small one is Super-Takumar 55/1.8. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The Kowa 55mm is even bigger, but it does come with its own shutter. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
RAART wrote: |
That should be Takumar lenses... 55mm 1.8 and 6x7 55mm 3.5
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Gardener wrote: |
What's there to ID? Clearly a MF Pentax, older, so 6x7, distance scale to 10m so 55mm focal distance, aperture scale is visible. So 6x7 Takumar 55/3.5. The small one is Super-Takumar 55/1.8. |
Not 100% correct on the 1.8 |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10531 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
The 1.8/55 is a Super-Takumar, evidenced by "M" instead of "Man" aperture switch label.
There are plenty of smaller & larger lenses -- finding two with such close resemblance could prove difficult, impossible maybe? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
A/M switch vs Auto/Man _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
The Kowa 55mm is even bigger, but it does come with its own shutter. |
What a beauty! |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Not 100% correct on the 1.8 |
Really? Auto has different DOF scale, and S-M-C does not use rounded lettering. Leaves Super.
edit: Ah-h - but opposite direction on aperture, so must be an Auto then.
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
It's actually an Auto-Takumar.
And the 6x7 is Super-Multi-Coated. |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 499 Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
blotafton wrote: |
Not 100% correct on the 1.8 |
Really? Auto has different DOF scale, and S-M-C does not use rounded lettering. Leaves Super. |
Should be one version before one you are mentioning... _________________
Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
I was very impressed by the massive size of the 6x7 lens so I took the side by side picture for comparison(with some help)
That was the main point of this thread, just to clarify. |
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Gerald
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: That's not a lens, this is a lens! |
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Gerald wrote:
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Both lenses are 55mm, but the smaller is two stops faster. Who said that size matters? _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:05 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
I am seriously beginning to think my Small Bauble Revueflex 55/1.8 is a relabeled Takumar perhaps. The A/M switch looks a bit different though
As to the size comparison, it is certainly impressive, however about any MF lens is pretty large and massive. Especially those fitting Kiev/Hassle or Kiev/P6
It would be interesting to list those that aren't. The relabeled Biometar 80/2.8 perhaps? In its plastic casing with blue stripe it is at least not too heavy. |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
Well, those new Hasselblad X lenses don't look humongous. |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Certainly the ///// rubber won't white out after 10 years like Minolta 35-40 Old style! Or will it?
As to the Exakta66, au contraire - it is plastic but much bigger than the original Biometar. |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
No, it's going to turn into the black goo like on Sigmas, but not before becoming loose like on Nikkors and then petrifying like on FD. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: That's not a lens, this is a lens! |
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blotafton wrote:
Gerald wrote: |
Both lenses are 55mm, but the smaller is two stops faster. Who said that size matters? |
Zeiss matters! |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:12 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
I was very impressed by the massive size of the 6x7 lens so I took the side by side picture for comparison(with some help)
That was the main point of this thread, just to clarify. |
Yes, the 6x7, a manly man's camera with manly man's lenses.
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:48 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
They do look nifty indeed to entice you buying into yet another mount.
The comparison however is not that fair I should add after reading up. Its impressive miniaturity is obtained by a crop factor of "only" about 0.7xFF (44x33), while technically MF, this is not that much bigger than FF.
About the same pixel density as 10Mpix APSC, only 5 times the area.
While this will certainly make for impressive shots, the lens doesn't need to light as much area as the humble Biometar. So it is smaller for a reason. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1552 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
blotafton wrote: |
I was very impressed by the massive size of the 6x7 lens so I took the side by side picture for comparison(with some help)
That was the main point of this thread, just to clarify. |
Yes, the 6x7, a manly man's camera with manly man's lenses.
(if you could here me speaking the above, it would be in imitation of Jeremy Clarkson in one of his more pontificating moments) |
Sound like something he would say haha!
buerokratiehasser wrote: |
They do look nifty indeed to entice you buying into yet another mount.
The comparison however is not that fair I should add after reading up. Its impressive miniaturity is obtained by a crop factor of "only" about 0.7xFF (44x33), while technically MF, this is not that much bigger than FF.
About the same pixel density as 10Mpix APSC, only 5 times the area.
While this will certainly make for impressive shots, the lens doesn't need to light as much area as the humble Biometar. So it is smaller for a reason. |
I may be missing something here but what does the 44x33mm format has to do with these lenses? |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10531 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Yes, the 6x7, a manly man's camera with manly man's lenses.
(if you could hear me speaking the above, it would be in imitation of Jeremy Clarkson in one of his more pontificating moments) |
ROTFLMAO (My parents are from Alabama & Mississippi) _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
I have that 6x7 monster lens, and it renders very very nice vintage looking images:
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
"Honey, I shrunk the Takumar!"
_________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2927 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Or you could go to the other extreme:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Now THATS a lens. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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