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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7495 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
For non-moving objects, I use two second timer on my camera to allow a relatively low shutter speed. This will help to eliminate the vibration of pressing the shutter. You may also set the camera in continuous shooting mode, press down the shutter button and pick the best photo afterward. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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marcusBMG
 Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1298 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
heres a few test pics on my 06B for comparison pentax K-r, 12 MPx, jpg's
Its not a very good set up, the lighting in particular is too dull, although I was trying to use a couple of reading spots to brighten up a bit. distance ws about 4-5m, depth of field is therefore about 3-4cm. 100% crop:
Here's one from outdoors, about 30m distance, DoF about 1m+:
UPDATE the sun came out so I retook the pics, and (below) tamron Nestor 400mm f6.9 for comparison. Left the previous pic posted because it illustrates the importance of lighting.
06B gives typical mirror shots: inherently dull contrast, and TBH I find that these lenses are tested by high pixel/high pixel density sensors. if you're using a 16MPx, then actually the pics you got may well be as good as you can get. RAW does better with more leeway to oomph the contrast and sharpen. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7495 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Mirror lenses need sufficient light to give good results. My 06B have good resolution, decent contrast and almost no CA. Here is an 100% crop of a fence roughly 70 meters away without any sharpen.
With a bit of sharpen, the result becomes pretty promising. It will be even better with the contrast and charity boosted.
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visualopsins
 Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10362 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
| mo wrote: |
| ... I had the iso at 400 which I use for the SP500. |
That may not be enough unless shutter speeds are 1/350 sec or faster -- 1/350 sec is faster than hand-hold shake. Your camera should go to iso 1600 no problem.  _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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mo
 Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 9029 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It has been suggested that I boost my iso setting higher than I normally would. Your 06B images look about the same as mine so perhaps it is performing within the accepted range for this lens? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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mo
 Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 9029 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:21 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I got a little bored so thought I would try the G1 with its VF and fine focus,amazing difference I do know this sample is spot on for focus. The VF makes a difference.I also remembered to bump the iso higher.
G1 iso 800 tripod and fine focus https://app.box.com/s/yhu9j1zwgfx00rjic8v6 JPEG,I have not shot with raw on the G1 as yet. this was using the Fotassy adapter M42-M4/3 which I note was a little loose...combined with the Orginal M42 Tamron adapter. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7495 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:01 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Congrats! The photo look good to me. The M4/3 cameras are pretty good on testing the resolution limit of manual lens thanks to their high pixel density.
As visualopsins suggested, I think it is OK to boost ISO to 800 or 1600 under sun light to keep the shutter speed high. The noise will only visible in the dark area. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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mo
 Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 9029 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:33 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Do you think I can conclude from these tests, that there is no fault with the lens, and it is within the normal range in the way it produces images?
I wish my K200D was still working so I could test it on a heavy bodied DSLR. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7495 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I think the resolution and contrast is consistent with the result of my copy. It does not seems there is any fault from the samples you have posted. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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marcusBMG
 Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1298 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Final test - my standard shot of the castle tower.
Crops:
1. off the card jpg
2. pp'ed from RAW
These crops comfortably stand comparison with the same subject shot with my other TP's including eg tamron 200-500mm. Under these conditions, and range the mirror is at its best IMO. And also IMO it's more the sensor on my K-r that's the limit rather than the lenses.
I've put a couple more pics in the mirror thread, manual focus lenses. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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