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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: Tamron Adapt-a-Matic 21mm f/4.5 model PFJ-45au |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
There's not much on the net about this lens. Some members here have one, there is one old thread with some excellent images started by Luisalegria here: http://forum.mflenses.com/tamron-adaptamatic-21-4-5-1960s-ultrawide-t15900.html
I recently got one, in very nice (nearly new) condition together with the 105mm f/2.5 JOG-25au.
As there are not much pictures made with one of the 21's on full-frame i'd like to add some of my experimental shots (Sony A7), so here you go:
1. f/8
Home (Tamron 21mm) by René Maly, on Flickr
2. f/11
Old trees (Tamron 21mm) by René Maly, on Flickr
3. wide open, f/4.5, a lot of vignetting and it shows the un-sharp edges/corners.
The cat says hi! (Tamron 21mm) by René Maly, on Flickr
4. f/11
Kitchen testshot Tamron 21mm by René Maly, on Flickr
5. finally a very un-scientific shot that shows the distortion!
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
There's a little more info on this lens at adaptall-2.com:
http://adaptall-2.com/lenses/PFJ-45Au.html
The pics look decent. Some softening and distortion in the corners, but not bad. _________________ Michael
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Pancolart
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Photos posted really look good. _________________ ---------------------------------
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
They look good indeed. It would be interesting to see the corners.
The A7 series is not supposed to do well with MF ultrawides on the corners, but it may do better with an ancient retrofocus like this.
I may be getting a full frame Pentax K1, maybe if prices come down after the new year.
I can't believe that thing is still selling at list price. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1747
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Very nice shots, indeed! Thank you for posting.
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:04 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Thanks all!
luisalegria wrote: |
The A7 series is not supposed to do well with MF ultrawides on the corners, but it may do better with an ancient retrofocus like this.
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Well, i have never noticed this, i use Minolta MD 20mm, Tokina RMC 17mm, Tamron SP 17mm. I always thought this problem only accounts for use of rangefinder lenses as they are closer to the sensor than SLR lenses. _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:39 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Very nice! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Anyone shooting this lens full frame lately? I'd love to see more samples. _________________ ---------------------------------
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Anyone shooting this lens full frame lately? I'd love to see more samples. |
The ones you see here are from Sony A7, which is full-frame. If i get some time this week i'll shoot some more if you like! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
TrueLoveOne wrote: |
Pancolart wrote: |
Anyone shooting this lens full frame lately? I'd love to see more samples. |
The ones you see here are from Sony A7, which is full-frame. If i get some time this week i'll shoot some more if you like! |
Much appreciated! _________________ ---------------------------------
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1534 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:41 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
They look good indeed. It would be interesting to see the corners.
The A7 series is not supposed to do well with MF ultrawides on the corners, but it may do better with an ancient retrofocus like this.
I may be getting a full frame Pentax K1, maybe if prices come down after the new year.
I can't believe that thing is still selling at list price. |
It's mostly RF lenses that doesn't work well from what I've seen.
The bad retrofocus lenses are probably bad on every camera |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Here you go, i took a quick walk around our little village!
These are vivid JPGs from the A7, i only corrected the exposure in LR, generally this Tamron delivers under-exposed pictures. Of course, this is no problem nowadays with digital. You could of course change your settings in camera....
It has quite strong vignetting when it's not stopped down, also the corners aren't sharp. But it's an old lens design, i think it has it's charmes!
Larger files on my flickr account!
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr
Closest focus distance, which is an amazing 20cm!
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr
Extreme crop of the above, enough detail.
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr
Closest focus distance and wide open, f/4.5.
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr
Wide open. Look towards the corners, they're quite bad here, center is still sharp!
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr
This is f/11, wide angle lenses usually are being used stopped down for this kind of photos or landscapes.
Testing Tamron 21mm f/4.5 by René Maly, on Flickr _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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kryss
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:11 pm Post subject: Tamron 21mm |
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kryss wrote:
Excellent photo's Rene.I have 17mm f3.5 Adaptall 2 I will take some shots tomorrow and post.Regards _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Tamron 21mm |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
kryss wrote: |
Excellent photo's Rene.I have 17mm f3.5 Adaptall 2 I will take some shots tomorrow and post.Regards |
Thank you! I have that as well, a very good lens! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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kds315*
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
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jamaeolus
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent center sharpness, corners just a tiny bit soft but certainly usable, contrast is not top notch either (easily boosted in post). Certainly way better than some other superwides from the era. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Very nice, i like its character a lot. Thank you! _________________ ---------------------------------
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Thanks all!
Pancolart wrote: |
Very nice, i like its character a lot. Thank you! |
No problem, my pleasure!
Cheers, René! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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luisalegria
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Nice results!
I always thought it was a superior lens for what it is, in spite of being so obsolete.
But with that enormous front element it certainly attracts attention ! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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bmwtraveler
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:23 am Post subject: modern photography 1968+ a few of my Adapt-A-Matic |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:55 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Bmwtraveler : nice ad! Thanks for sharing! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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willy35
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: |
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willy35 wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to ad my contribution
In my opinion, this lens is bad for landscape, very soft, but I really like it for close range - Sony A7 - Novoflex ring
What I like as well, is the sky saturation, it is like having a polarizer on the lens.
Don't look at the black dots, I realize my sensor is hell dirty !
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Yes, some lenses are like that - better for closer shots than distant and wide landscapes.
You have been able to get the best from your lens by working to its strengths.
Thanks for sharing
Tom |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
But that fish surely is not in focus. _________________ ---------------------------------
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willy35
Joined: 17 Jul 2017 Posts: 97 Location: BREIZH
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:48 am Post subject: |
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willy35 wrote:
After 3 weeks holydays using this lens, I totally love it, and it became one of my favorite.
Focus is smooth and very easy.
For the price I got it (less than 80 euros) it is far usable, the soft corners do not bother me at all, center is really sharp.
This is a great lens. |
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