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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: Takumar (Bayonet) 135mm better than I expected |
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Zeeke wrote:
This lens tends not to be so appreciated but when the price was only 5 euro
and it was in great condition curiosity took over and luckily it did.it is a fun lens to use and not so long after its SMC siblings in performance.
What are your experiences with this lens?
My first test pictures with the lens,wide open.....This is a Made in Taiwan should I add,the Made in Japan apparently should be better.
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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If those are straight out of the camera, that's a good lens. The first picture is excellent, plenty sharp enough and lovely bokeh. The bokeh on the other shots is OK as well. Yes....a nice lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
They are resized and sharpen.It's a tricky lens to fokus the pictures gets hazy if
they are just a little back focused. _________________ Pentax Ks1
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 942 Location: Poland
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memetph wrote:
There are two Takumars bayonet 135mm, f2.5 and f2.8 . |
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
memetph wrote: |
There are two Takumars bayonet 135mm, f2.5 and f2.8 . |
My is the f2.5 one _________________ Pentax Ks1
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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fwcetus wrote:
Zeeke wrote: |
memetph wrote: |
There are two Takumars bayonet 135mm, f2.5 and f2.8 . |
My is the f2.5 one |
They might be optically the same (4 elements in 4 groups), and both are likely really 135/2.8 lenses, too.
The 135/"2.5", just like the 135/2.8, has 52mm filter threads (so that it likely has a clear front aperture of less than 50mm). At 135mm, an f/2.5 lens should have a front aperture of 135/2.5 or 54mm.
[Compare that with the SMC Pentax "K" 135/2.5, which has 58mm filter threads, for example.] _________________ Fred
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 393 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
Zeeke wrote: |
My is the f2.5 one |
This one, right?
It might get an unduly bad reputation because it's directly compared to the brilliant K135/2.5 (the last version of the M42 Takumar 135/2.5 has the same optical design).
Anyone who thinks they bought a K135 or a M42 Takumar 135/2.5 and gets this one instead will develop an irrational hatred for this lens... _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135mm better than I expected |
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fwcetus wrote:
Zeeke wrote: |
This lens tends not to be so appreciated but when the price was only 5 euro
and it was in great condition curiosity took over and luckily it did.it is a fun lens to use and not so long after its SMC siblings in performance.
What are your experiences with this lens? |
At 5 euro, how could you go wrong?
I used to have one of these, many moons ago, and was surprised at how good it was (pretty sharp and with good colors), as long as the lens is shielded from bright light. Without SMC, it flares pretty easily, but, if it is kept away from a backlit bright sky or some other backlit light source, it works pretty well.
EDIT: Here was my arsenal of Pentax 135's at one time (way back in Ye Olde Film Days of Yore) -
[A* 135/1.8, VS1 135/2.3, K 135/2.5, Takumar [Bayonet] 135/2.5, K 135/3.5 -- I still have only the VS1 135/2.3 and the K 135/2.5.]
And, Zeeke, I like your third shot the best. _________________ Fred
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
fwcetus wrote: |
Zeeke wrote: |
memetph wrote: |
There are two Takumars bayonet 135mm, f2.5 and f2.8 . |
My is the f2.5 one |
They might be optically the same (4 elements in 4 groups), and both are likely really 135/2.8 lenses, too.
The 135/"2.5", just like the 135/2.8, has 52mm filter threads (so that it likely has a clear front aperture of less than 50mm). At 135mm, an f/2.5 lens should have a front aperture of 135/2.5 or 54mm.
[Compare that with the SMC Pentax "K" 135/2.5, which has 58mm filter threads, for example.] |
Yes I think you are right,when I stoped it dow to f4 I'm getting exactly half the shutter speed from wide open. _________________ Pentax Ks1
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135mm better than I expected |
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Zeeke wrote:
fwcetus wrote: |
Zeeke wrote: |
This lens tends not to be so appreciated but when the price was only 5 euro
and it was in great condition curiosity took over and luckily it did.it is a fun lens to use and not so long after its SMC siblings in performance.
What are your experiences with this lens? |
At 5 euro, how could you go wrong?
I used to have one of these, many moons ago, and was surprised at how good it was (pretty sharp and with good colors), as long as the lens is shielded from bright light. Without SMC, it flares pretty easily, but, if it is kept away from a backlit bright sky or some other backlit light source, it works pretty well.
EDIT: Here was my arsenal of Pentax 135's at one time (way back in Ye Olde Film Days of Yore) -
[A* 135/1.8, VS1 135/2.3, K 135/2.5, Takumar [Bayonet] 135/2.5, K 135/3.5 -- I still have only the VS1 135/2.3 and the K 135/2.5.]
And, Zeeke, I like your third shot the best. |
WOW that Pentax a f1.8 looks delicious.. The new K1 with that one should been lots of fun... _________________ Pentax Ks1
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
Some more with the lens.Att f4 I think this is as sharp as Sonnar or Hexanone 3,2 but I have to check that at some point
F2.5
F4
F4
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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fwcetus wrote:
~Very~ nice portraits, Zeeke. _________________ Fred
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
fwcetus wrote: |
~Very~ nice portraits, Zeeke. |
Thank you! _________________ Pentax Ks1
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quidam
Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 216 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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quidam wrote:
Where a budget lens is capable of. Very nice portraits. _________________ Sony Nex 5 & 6, Sony A7II. |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3437 Location: Netherlands
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Minolfan wrote:
+1!!
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Excellent Zeeke.
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Also would like to say, those are excellent portraits and good examples of the lens' sharpness.
It's indeed sharp. I also stayed away from this model due the all the bad reviews online, how it didn't have the SMC and was inferior to the K135 f/2.5. I wasn't impressed with my copies of the S-M-C Takumar f/2.5 v.1. So, who wants more disappointment!
Your gamble paid off, and the performance in those portraits had me go dig up my Ricoh XR Rikenon 135 f/2.8. This was Pentax-made (in Japan) lens, single-coated. I found it to be quite sharp. Looking it over, I believe it's probably siblings with the Takumar Bayonet.
Sometimes, reviews are just off. Another maligned 135mm is their SMC Pentax-M f/3.5. How the new 5 in 5 design was poor. They go unloved. I also took a chance on one for under $10.
It turned out to be excellent. Quite frankly, much better than all my other f/3.5, including Pentax's Super and S-M-C Takumars, Canon FD S.C., Olympus OM, Minolta MD's (4 in 4 and 5 in 5), and two Hexanon ARs (older and newer versions).
So, you never know until you put it on your camera.
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