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chris_zeel
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:56 pm Post subject: Taisei Kogaku Tamron 135/2.8, any good? |
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chris_zeel wrote:
In a local second hand store I stumbled upon a preset Tamron 135mm f/2.8 lens.
Didn't buy it and made two snapshots with my phone, as I was in a rush.
On the nameplate it says Taisei Kogaku, and it's preset lens with (I think) a T-mount (with Exakta, I think).
It looks a bit like the Twin-Tele lens, which I read is quite good.
Any ideas about this lens?
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Lloydy
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I have got the 'TWIN-TELE' - which is the same 135 / 2.8 lens but it comes with a teleconverter that makes it 225 / 5.5 as well. And it's a great lens, I've had some good pictures from it - at both lengths. Obviously it is a lens of its time, don't expect the sort of results you would get from a modern lens, but expect to be surprised. It's a lovely lens.
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Lloydy wrote:
Three pic's from the TWIN-TELE with the TC so they are shot at 225mm. ( I can't find the 135mm test pic's ) No processing, just resized.
I think they show that the lens is actually way better than we should expect for a lens of its age, at 135mm it's better than this.
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chris_zeel
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chris_zeel wrote:
So this would be the same as the Twin-Tele lens?
What would be a reasonable amount to pay?
Not sure about the condition, I think the rear element was quite covered with sticky dust.
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F-mount: Nikon Series E 28/2.8, 50/1.8, 100/2.8, Nikkor-S 35/2.8, Nikkor-H.C 50/2, Nikkor-H 85/1.8
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Lloydy wrote:
I think I paid about £20 for the TWI-TELE, in perfect condition with original caps but no box or case, from the local camera fair. But I did get lucky, the seller hadn't got a clue what he was selling. 
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Lloydy wrote:
This is the TWIN-TELE. I'm pretty sure the 135mm part is the same. ( The gun is a fake, theatrical prop  )
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chris_zeel
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chris_zeel wrote:
Thanks for your replies!
I'll see if I can go back and have a better look at it.
Curious to know what price they would ask.
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Folder: Afga Isolette-I
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AF: Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 XR Di LD
Exakta: Meyer-Optik Trioplan 50/2.9, Primagon 35/4.5
M42: Sigma Mini Wide 28/2.8, Auto Chinon 28/2.8, Meyer-Optik Lydith 30/3.5, Pentacon Electric 29/2.8, Mir 1b 37/2.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4, Meyer-Optik Oreston 50 f/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2, CZJ Tessar T 50/2.8, E. Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Meyer-Optik Primotar E 50/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5, SMC Takumar 55/2, CZJ Biotar 58/2, Helios 44 58 f/2, Jupiter-9 85 f/2, Meyer-Optik 85/3.5, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, Accura Super Tc 135/2.8, Pentacon Zebra 135/2.8, Jupiter-11 135 f/4, Chinon MC Auto 200/3.5, Accura Supertel Tc 200/4.5, Soligor C/D Macro+Zoom 80-200/4.5
F-mount: Nikon Series E 28/2.8, 50/1.8, 100/2.8, Nikkor-S 35/2.8, Nikkor-H.C 50/2, Nikkor-H 85/1.8
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Yes it is the same as the twin tele version.
It was also sold under many names.
I thought it was a fine 135/2.8, by my standards. Of course, a great number of 135/2.8 are fine lenses by my standards.
I still have a couple in different markings.
http://forum.mflenses.com/converto-tamron-2-8-135-matched-tc-full-1962-kit-t23521,highlight,%2Btamron.html
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
The 135/2.8 by itself
http://forum.mflenses.com/converto-tamron-135-2-8-t-mount-t17053,highlight,%2Btamron.html
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Huh, 135 with Twin Tele finish looks so similar to my Kawanon:
http://forum.mflenses.com/kawanon-2-8-135mm-12-blades-t2-t43207.html
See bellow DOF scale narrowing on all lenses for instance. I could bet this is the same maker.
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