Super Multi Coated Takumar 135/2.5

[huhging]

I have a chance to buy this lens for $100....
Is this a decent lens?
He says it's M42 mount.

How is it's sharpness and bokeh.....compared to Canon 135L?
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[CarbonR]

There are two versions of this lens, one is extremely sharp even at f/2.5 (the second), the first is not so sharp at highest apertures
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My photo collection :
Main cameras : Pentax K100D, Canon 5D, Pentax 6x7, Pentax 67, Pentax SP, SP1000, P30
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36), 45mm to 400mm (6x7), f/1.2 to f/45, 98g to 5500g
My Takumar lenses collection :
SMC 15/3.5, S-M-C F-E 17/4, F-E 18/11, S-M-C 20/4.5, S-M-C 24/3.5, S 28/3.5 (V1), S-M-C 28/3.5, S 35/2 (V1), S-M-C 35/2, S-M-C 35/3.5, Auto 35/2.3, preset 35/4, S 50/1.4 V1, S-M-C 50/1.4, A-K 50/3.5 V2, Macro 50/4 (preset), Auto 55/2.2, preset 55/2.2, S-M-C/6x7 55/3.5, A-K 58/2.4, Auto 85/1.8, S-M-C 85/1.8, preset 100/3.5 M42, S-M-C Bellows 100/4, S-M-C/6x7 105/2.4, Auto 105/2.8, S-M-C 105/2.8, S-M-C 120/2.8, 135/3.5 (preset and AK), S-M-C 135/3.5, S-M-C/6X7 135/4 macro, S-M-C 135/2.5 (V2), S-M-C 135/2.5 (V1), S-M-C/6X7 150/2.8, S-M-C 150/4, 200/3.5 (preset), S-M-C 200/4, Tele 200/5.6, S-M-C/6x7 200/4, S 300/4, preset 300/4, Tele 300/6.3, Tele 400/5.6, S-M-C/6X7 400/4, S-M-C 500/4.5, Tele 1000/8, Zoom 45-125/4, Zoom 85-210/4.5, Zoom 75-150/4.5
[FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
MFLenses feed-back
Available for sale : Dealer stands, Auto Takumar 35/2.3, S-M-C Takumar 120/2.8 user (1), S-M-C Takumar/6X7 200/4, Rodenstock APO Gerogon enlarger lenses, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, Takumar 35/4, Tamron 90/2.5 52B and 52BB, SMC Pentax-A 35-210/3.5-4.5, SMC Pentax A 28/2, non listed : Please check [url=http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/AchatsVentes/Photo-Audio-Video/vds-objos-pentax-sujet_435510_1.htm]Pentax K gear and M42 and Takumar gear, pm me if you're interested in something// Want To Buy // Takumars M37/M42

[estudleon]

I read somewhere (pentax forum? ) that the second version of the lens that is by which huhging is asking (6/6) is sharpest than the MC CJZ.

Is it true?

Rino
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

[CarbonR]

This was my first 135mm lenses comparison :


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My photo collection :
Main cameras : Pentax K100D, Canon 5D, Pentax 6x7, Pentax 67, Pentax SP, SP1000, P30
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36), 45mm to 400mm (6x7), f/1.2 to f/45, 98g to 5500g
My Takumar lenses collection :
SMC 15/3.5, S-M-C F-E 17/4, F-E 18/11, S-M-C 20/4.5, S-M-C 24/3.5, S 28/3.5 (V1), S-M-C 28/3.5, S 35/2 (V1), S-M-C 35/2, S-M-C 35/3.5, Auto 35/2.3, preset 35/4, S 50/1.4 V1, S-M-C 50/1.4, A-K 50/3.5 V2, Macro 50/4 (preset), Auto 55/2.2, preset 55/2.2, S-M-C/6x7 55/3.5, A-K 58/2.4, Auto 85/1.8, S-M-C 85/1.8, preset 100/3.5 M42, S-M-C Bellows 100/4, S-M-C/6x7 105/2.4, Auto 105/2.8, S-M-C 105/2.8, S-M-C 120/2.8, 135/3.5 (preset and AK), S-M-C 135/3.5, S-M-C/6X7 135/4 macro, S-M-C 135/2.5 (V2), S-M-C 135/2.5 (V1), S-M-C/6X7 150/2.8, S-M-C 150/4, 200/3.5 (preset), S-M-C 200/4, Tele 200/5.6, S-M-C/6x7 200/4, S 300/4, preset 300/4, Tele 300/6.3, Tele 400/5.6, S-M-C/6X7 400/4, S-M-C 500/4.5, Tele 1000/8, Zoom 45-125/4, Zoom 85-210/4.5, Zoom 75-150/4.5
[FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
MFLenses feed-back
Available for sale : Dealer stands, Auto Takumar 35/2.3, S-M-C Takumar 120/2.8 user (1), S-M-C Takumar/6X7 200/4, Rodenstock APO Gerogon enlarger lenses, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, Takumar 35/4, Tamron 90/2.5 52B and 52BB, SMC Pentax-A 35-210/3.5-4.5, SMC Pentax A 28/2, non listed : Please check [url=http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/AchatsVentes/Photo-Audio-Video/vds-objos-pentax-sujet_435510_1.htm]Pentax K gear and M42 and Takumar gear, pm me if you're interested in something// Want To Buy // Takumars M37/M42

[huhging]

I still don't get it.....which version is he selling?

On the front element it says " asahi super multi coated takumar"
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[Spotmatic]

[huhging]

He says the number is 43802.
Does this mean it's not a sharp one?
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[CarbonR]

Yes, it is also the first version, same optical formula as the Super Takumar 135/2.5 in my comparison
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My photo collection :
Main cameras : Pentax K100D, Canon 5D, Pentax 6x7, Pentax 67, Pentax SP, SP1000, P30
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36), 45mm to 400mm (6x7), f/1.2 to f/45, 98g to 5500g
My Takumar lenses collection :
SMC 15/3.5, S-M-C F-E 17/4, F-E 18/11, S-M-C 20/4.5, S-M-C 24/3.5, S 28/3.5 (V1), S-M-C 28/3.5, S 35/2 (V1), S-M-C 35/2, S-M-C 35/3.5, Auto 35/2.3, preset 35/4, S 50/1.4 V1, S-M-C 50/1.4, A-K 50/3.5 V2, Macro 50/4 (preset), Auto 55/2.2, preset 55/2.2, S-M-C/6x7 55/3.5, A-K 58/2.4, Auto 85/1.8, S-M-C 85/1.8, preset 100/3.5 M42, S-M-C Bellows 100/4, S-M-C/6x7 105/2.4, Auto 105/2.8, S-M-C 105/2.8, S-M-C 120/2.8, 135/3.5 (preset and AK), S-M-C 135/3.5, S-M-C/6X7 135/4 macro, S-M-C 135/2.5 (V2), S-M-C 135/2.5 (V1), S-M-C/6X7 150/2.8, S-M-C 150/4, 200/3.5 (preset), S-M-C 200/4, Tele 200/5.6, S-M-C/6x7 200/4, S 300/4, preset 300/4, Tele 300/6.3, Tele 400/5.6, S-M-C/6X7 400/4, S-M-C 500/4.5, Tele 1000/8, Zoom 45-125/4, Zoom 85-210/4.5, Zoom 75-150/4.5
[FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
MFLenses feed-back
Available for sale : Dealer stands, Auto Takumar 35/2.3, S-M-C Takumar 120/2.8 user (1), S-M-C Takumar/6X7 200/4, Rodenstock APO Gerogon enlarger lenses, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, Takumar 35/4, Tamron 90/2.5 52B and 52BB, SMC Pentax-A 35-210/3.5-4.5, SMC Pentax A 28/2, non listed : Please check [url=http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/AchatsVentes/Photo-Audio-Video/vds-objos-pentax-sujet_435510_1.htm]Pentax K gear and M42 and Takumar gear, pm me if you're interested in something// Want To Buy // Takumars M37/M42

[huhging]

Thank you for the kind info.....
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[peterm1]

I do not think it correct to say that the earlier version is not sharp. It is. But the later version is sharper - especially wide open. The early version is not a dog by any means. I have owned one for years and its turned in many excellent shots. I think that the earlier version seems more common that the later one - at least they turn up on auction sites more often.
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PeterM

[huhging]

I'll use this mainly for portraits, so super sharp may not be good.
How is the bokeh from the lens?

Anyone have some pictures to share?
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[huhging]

Is it so bad that $100 would be a waste or over-priced?
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Canon: 5D II
Contax N : 17-35, 24-85, 50, 85, 100
Contax C/Y : Planar 100/2.0
ZE : 21/2.8
Minolta : Rokkor 58/1.2, 85/1.7, 100/2.0
Nikon : 105/2.5 AIS

[aoleg]

[estudleon]

IN M42 (like the TAk 2,5/135) you have a lot of good 135s too.

CZJ 3,5 or 4; steinheil; 37-A; tak 3,5 1st version; etc.

In others mount, you have the elmarit, canon L, rolleinar, etc.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.

[no-X]

Or bokehmonster (pentacon/meyer 135/2.8 pre-set). The lens has nice bokeh and is quite sharp (at f/2.8-f/4 less than S-M-C 135/2.5 #2, but it has lower sagital CA).
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