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 Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: Strange Large screw mount lens Not M42 -more like 55mm rear |
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Hello my photo friends....
I recently picked up a nice Schneider Tele-Xenar from a thrift shop and am a bit stumped. I am generally great at identifying lens mounts but this is a bizarre one that I just can not figure out.... 
This is a Schneider 36cm f5.5 lens in a focusing barrel with a large screw mount design and the lens covers Medium format. It is not m42 but more of a 55mm rear thread size. I generally see this lens fitting Exakta and Leica but never in this focusing mount...
I am calling upon the great Vintage lens mount knowers of FM to decipher what this one is... 
Thanks all....
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Large screw mount lens Not M42 -more like 55mm r |
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Nordentro wrote:
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| PLink wrote: |
Hello my photo friends....
I recently picked up a nice Schneider Tele-Xenar from a thrift shop and am a bit stumped. I am generally great at identifying lens mounts but this is a bizarre one that I just can not figure out....
This is a Schneider 36cm f5.5 lens in a focusing barrel with a large screw mount design and the lens covers Medium format. It is not m42 but more of a 55mm rear thread size. I generally see this lens fitting Exakta and Leica but never in this focusing mount...
I am calling upon the great Vintage lens mount knowers of FM to decipher what this one is...
Thanks all....
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Strange Large screw mount lens Not M42 -more like 55mm r |
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ZoneV wrote:
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I am calling upon the great Vintage lens mount knowers of FM to decipher what this one is... ... |
Read and wrote an answer over on Fredmiranda, but here we are on MFlenses 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff Zen wrote:
I am not one of the great Vintage lens mount knowers here, but it looks like it might be a movie camera or television lens to me. I bet it's really a good lens whatever it's use! |
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PLink
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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PLink wrote:
| Jeff Zen wrote: |
| I am not one of the great Vintage lens mount knowers here, but it looks like it might be a movie camera or television lens to me. I bet it's really a good lens whatever it's use! |
Thanks Jeff,
That has so far been what I have been feeling... I am just not sure which one... It covers medium format so I guess it could even work with 70mm format if desired....
I have been searching aerial cameras, motion picture camera, medium format, etc. I tried to screw a 55mm filter onto it - Very close but not quite... More like a 55.5 to 56mm screw mount rear I guess.
From what I can tell, the lens is from around 1938 (according to its serial number) and it has a matching barrel.
A strange one indeed.... |
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Attila wrote:
screw mount is huge I have no idea either what lens is this.
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luisalegria wrote:
Whats the serial number ?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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PLink wrote:
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| Whats the serial number ? |
S# 1461730
http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/age_of_lenses/
says November of 1938... |
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luisalegria wrote:
Early Primarflex screw mount ?
That would fit the date.
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David wrote:
Bronica S2A 57mm x 1mm thread mount? If so, it has a 101.7mm flange focal distance.
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luisalegria wrote:
Dont know what the thread was on the early Primarflex mount, but it was big.
http://shop.shphotoshop.de/Schneider-f-Bentzin-Primarflex-180mm-135-Xenar/en
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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PLink wrote:
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Early Primarflex screw mount ?
That would fit the date. |
Ahhhh luisalegria ... You might have hit the nail on the head with that one.... Primarflex.... I might need to find another Primarflex and test this theory.
Exciting, I think this might be a super rarity for Primarflex if so - generally Zeiss, Boyer, Berthoit and Meyer have the lenses for this mount. I have never seen a Schneider for it... Hmm.
I sold the INOP one that I had a few years back...I am not sure the screw mount size for the camera but this might just be a match. |
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luisalegria wrote:
http://www.exaklaus.de/priobj.htm
Hey ! one of our guys should be able to check this out !
Uh, Klaus ?
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woodrim wrote:
When I saw this thread start, I was just waiting for Luis.
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luisalegria wrote:
Why me ?
I do not actually own many weird German cameras or weird German lenses.
I wouldn't mind having them though.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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PLink wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
| When I saw this thread start, I was just waiting for Luis. |
Luis, sounds like a badge of honor to me  |
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woodrim wrote:
You're a lens mount genius. Or at least allow me to think so.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Strange Large screw mount lens Not M42 -more like 55mm r |
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Just curious, but is that the aperture diaphragm ring up front, just behind the black arrow? Thanks. |
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice to see my advice to come here and ask has paid off.
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SVP wrote:
Primarflex mount is significantly larger (ø70mm)... Not even Meister Korelle (ø60mm)... |
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exaklaus wrote:
Guess it is Reflex Korelle which was built with 3 different mounts: bajonet (late), small screw mount around 39-40 (usual) and a big one (for Primoplan and long tele lenses)
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vroger wrote:
I believe this is the tread mount associated with Meister-Korelle camera's?
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Basilisk wrote:
If it was for 6x7 film, it would be a super-wide angle surely? |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| If it was for 6x7 film, it would be a super-wide angle surely? |
Well, it is 36cm or 360mm if I have read it correctly - so telephoto definitely.
It would be a lot easier if every manufacturer used the same units of measurement as they do now, but I guess back then there was no agreed standard.
Interesting looking lens
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