Sony Alpha and manual lenses

conor12 · Joined: 18 Apr 2008 Posts: 129 Location: Dublin

If your lucky you can get them quite cheap. I got a mint elmarit 2.8/35 (first version) for 100 euros of ebay.

marcologous · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Dubai

I have mounted a helios 44M-6 58 2.0 to my sony A200.. But can't get the infinity right! I performed a surgery on it by taking the mount off my old stock sony alpha lens... it worked but I don't know how to fix the infinity focus... this same problem is occuring on the original body - zenit ET... help?

http://marcologous.blogspot.com/2010/06/sony-alpha-200-with-helios-44-m-2-58mm.html

my_photography · Expire: 2016-12-25

Welcome to the forum, marcologous.

Do you encounter the same problem with other MF lens? It could be someone did not properly reassemble the lens last time. I do not have the 44M-6 so I cannot confirm but I am using other Helios 44 series and I do not have this problem.

marcologous · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Dubai

Maybe... yeah... too bad. When I got this lens from an old friend it's already not focusing right to infinity on the original body. If I reassemble this can anybody give some tips? Cheers!

http://marcologous.blogspot.com/2010/06/sony-alpha-200-with-helios-44-m-2-58mm.html

marcologous · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Dubai

I just fixed the infinity focus issue! it's the glass element at the end! I unscrewed the end part and then just flipped the glass element... And voila! It worked! Smile

Plokko · Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 39 Location: Italy

My a200 is simply perfect with MF lens!

my favourite lens is the volna-3 for kiev88(adapted to m42 with a modified pentacon-six->m42 adapter and my m42 adapter with chip),i'll buy for it a 85mm exif adapter so the Super Steady Shot works perfect (now i have a 50mm exif,it works well but it won't compensate at it's "full capacity").

i have more mf(a lot more)lens than af lens and one of the best. Very Happy

With a200 you must buy an adapter with chip if you want to use it also in aperture priority,as sayd the internal stabiliizer works well even if the exif isn't correct(don't use a lens with focal lenght less then the exif) and the don't cost too much.
With other models you can shoot in aperture priority without a chip if you have the option to shoot without a lens attached.(also a100 has it)

OrcaH4H · Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 83 Location: Finland

Hi!

Am thinking of buying a A77 and use it with my Leitaxed Leica R's. Does someone know if the steady shot works with manual lenses, or do you need a chip, or do you need a chip with mm info?

Juho

my_photography · Expire: 2016-12-25

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

torbod · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 379 Location: Sweden

Perhaps some one can confirm this.

I remember a discussion about this way back. Perhaps in the old minolta 7D days. I think that with MF glass without chip, the sss is actially enabled with the selection knob, but then it defaults only to 50mm focal length. So I think the answer is both yes and no.
Yes it is working without chip. No it only works for 50mm lenses without chip.

This default action may also be different for different camera models within the sonolta lineup.

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

I'm not sure about the new a77 model, but other than the a100 and a700, all other Sony models (as far as I.am aware) required a chip to use aperture priority mode and sss.

Arkku · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland

The chipped adapter enables aperture priority mode in those cameras not supporting it normally (at least the A100, A700, and A900 support it). It also enables AF confirm and SteadyShot on all cameras. Technically SteadyShot does turn on in at least the A100 and A900 (haven't tried any others) even with an unchipped adapter, but it is unknown if it actually does anything useful without �knowledge� of the focal length. Sometimes one hears claims that it defaults to 50mm, but I think these are just misunderstandings based on the fact that many chipped adapters report the 50mm focal length unless you specifically buy an adapter programmed for another setting.

In any case SteadyShot will only be fully effective if the adapter reports the approximately correct focal length for the lens being used. An approximate, preferably shorter than longer, focal length does help somewhat, though. For example, 50mm should be just fine for lenses 45-60mm and better than nothing for longer than that. With considerably shorter focal lengths than reported by the adapter one might wish to disable SteadyShot so it doesn't actually introduce vibration by �overcorrecting�.

(Shameless self-promotion: I have written a little FAQ about M42 lenses on Sony Alpha.)

Wally626 · Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Yorktown

MartinJan · Joined: 11 Feb 2012 Posts: 15 Location: Holland (Dutch)

I have a (Tamron) Adaptall2 / SMA adapter for $15 on e-bay, today's prices are mutch cheaper then back in 2007

the Adaptal II to SMA

and mine

reg

buerokratiehasser · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470

- yes without chip, sony hates you. This is true for almost all bodies, actually I don't know any of the old SLR bodies (Dynax/maxxum, Alpha-xxx) where it isn't. You get M mode or, if you are lucky, "preset A" mode (like on Minolta 4, unfortunately you don't see the shutter times) Glad to hear they improved that on a77

- M42 has better flange than M-AF so infinity without glass. However, some adaptors are said to be a thick too thick, I can confirm. F11 somewhat fixes

- I basically saw only m42 adaptors traded in any quantity and reasonable price (i.e. not like 40 bucks from professional trader) when I still used 'B. Not even M/MD without glass.

- M/MD is fine for 4/3 and related. Prices seem to have gone well up. Like, the 250 went for a lot.

- sss symbol lights without chip [edit: on my a230]. and I shot 300 mm at 1/250 or so, had the impression sss worked. may have been fooling myself.

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

I think the a100 and a700 allow you to shoot in A mode without a chip. Certainly the a100 as I had one before Smile

The camera defaults to 50mm.

Arkku · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland

buerokratiehasser · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470

I think he means the sss defaults to 50mm.

I never understood why sss should care, but otherwise rather smart people said it does.
In my experience, I shoot 300mm m42 tele at like, 1/250 and try to hold still, and often (50%?) the image is not shake limited. But I may be deluding myself.

Arkku · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland

my_photography · Expire: 2016-12-25

Arkku · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland

buerokratiehasser · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470

iirc they have that option but even enabling it gives you only M

same with film bodies EXCEPT the small auto-everything cameras like 4 - but as I said, you don't see the times on those so a bit of metering / guessing required not to get too much shaek

Curiously, the secret handshake from the web to enable release without lens (you know on poweron press those buttons...) seemed to do nothing on one of mine, it always fired no matter what; but I cannot remember what body that was.

january-w · Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 9 Location: Germany

Will an electronic adapter, which allows to have AF-confirm, be enough to use the anti-shake in Minolta 7D?

Arkku · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland

huigmeinen · Joined: 04 Sep 2013 Posts: 1

Can anyone suggest me some sony DSLR cam for home photography.
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