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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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oh, I am very surprised that his 'findings' should be new and by his comment, quote: "Would be nice to know from Sony why those lenses cannot get the full 5 axis stabilization…"
I thought that it was very clear from the first Sony videos and press releases that what they call "Yaw and Pitch" stabilization was done by the image stabilization of native Sony lenses, and that 'only' X/Y and 'roll' stabilization was done by the sensor, at least this is how I understood it, but I have never looked into technicalities nor am I inclined to do so |
You will get all the 5 axis if you use a Sony FE lens without OSS but only 3 axis for third party lens. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
kuuan wrote: |
oh, I am very surprised that his 'findings' should be new and by his comment, quote: "Would be nice to know from Sony why those lenses cannot get the full 5 axis stabilization…"
I thought that it was very clear from the first Sony videos and press releases that what they call "Yaw and Pitch" stabilization was done by the image stabilization of native Sony lenses, and that 'only' X/Y and 'roll' stabilization was done by the sensor, at least this is how I understood it, but I have never looked into technicalities nor am I inclined to do so |
You will get all the 5 axis if you use a Sony FE lens without OSS but only 3 axis for third party lens. |
oh, ok. That's mysterious then _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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oh, ok. That's mysterious then |
Someone at the SAR mentioned this is related to the missing distance encoding in adapted lens. But I am not sure if this is the correct answer. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
I woudl wait till 2032, I'm sure the A7 price is much lower then and / or there might be a MUCH better Sony even!! :LOL: |
I am not usually vunerable to marketing to be sure....Bought my 5D classic when the price dropped below $800 (US$3200 new!) and just sold it for US$550...so it cost me US$250 to use for over 5 years...bought the Panasonic G5 with kit lens for US$299 right when it was discontinued....
If I snag the A7 for US$700-800, I could probably do the same thing, and buy the A7 III(!) in 2018.
February 2015....that's when I calculate the A7 depreciation getting to the US$800 mark....then the old Exakta lenses get to use full frame! Very exciting!
As far as 2032, my child will have completed university, and I anticipate less budget constraints then _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
List and a photo or two of my lens herd |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
http://youtu.be/PHKhtbinU2Y |
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
Kram wrote: |
http://youtu.be/PHKhtbinU2Y |
2032 will be an auspicious year! _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
List and a photo or two of my lens herd |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
My new A7 II is sent, I will probably have it friday or saturday! _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1247 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
My new A7 II is sent, I will probably have it friday or saturday! |
Nordentro i did a little sex wee with that comment please put up a review when you ge the chance _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I will probably write some words pretty early after I get it!
Thx... _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I got my new camera today
The grip is much better for my hands and the IBIS works great. The Speedmaster and the A7 II makes a nice combo for shooting in low light with low ISO The camera smells wierd and must have been sprayed with something? I can`t remember this smell from the A7R when it was new. Coming back soon with pictures and more updates... _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Can't wait to hear your opinion about it
I have several pentax dslr and their ibis is very good.
Pentax's focal setting is 800mm, and I had used to shot 500/8 with tc2x, handheld. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
wow congrats!!! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Thank you!
Some porn pictures
_________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:02 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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From this photo, I can see there is a yellow/violet patten inside the Speedmaster. It might be a sign that this lens will have color shift (see http://forum.mflenses.com/color-changeshift-on-fast-lenses-t68815,highlight,%2Bcolor.html) . Could you help me to check if the lens have a visible color shift when you change the aperture? _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
_________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes, I will keep that in mind _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
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Yes, I will keep that in mind |
I see. Thank you, Lars.
With your new combo, you can take low light photos handheld without using a high ISO. I will buy a A7II next year after I thin out my collection of lenses. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: Sony A711 |
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kryss wrote:
calvin83........I will buy my A711 when I thin my lens collection.
That was my idea but I can resist everything but temptation,so I pick up my A711 on Monday and really must get down to selling some of my far too many lenses etc. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Sony A711 |
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calvin83 wrote:
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calvin83........I will buy my A711 when I thin my lens collection.
That was my idea but I can resist everything but temptation,so I pick up my A711 on Monday and really must get down to selling some of my far too many lenses etc. |
I am sure it will be a nice Christmas present for yourself. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Indeed,I got hooked on Sony with the a6000 it shines with my Canon FD lenses I have been trying to get rid of,glad I didn't.Good timing as I was about to buy a7 _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
With your new combo, you can take low light photos handheld without using a high ISO. I will buy a A7II next year after I thin out my collection of lenses. |
It's amazing, it was pretty dark and darker than the picture give impression of. _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:05 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
I read that the IBIS will stay deactivated after a Sony OSS lens had been mounted, that it won't work with an adapted lens then and there is no way to activate it, resp. the only way to activate it again is by mounting a non OSS Sony lens first:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3772357 _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:18 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
I read that the IBIS will stay deactivated after a Sony OSS lens had been mounted, that it won't work with an adapted lens then and there is no way to activate it, resp. the only way to activate it again is by mounting a non OSS Sony lens first:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3772357 |
A firmware update should be able solve this issue. Hope Sony will fix this problem ASAP. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
kuuan wrote: |
I read that the IBIS will stay deactivated after a Sony OSS lens had been mounted, that it won't work with an adapted lens then and there is no way to activate it, resp. the only way to activate it again is by mounting a non OSS Sony lens first:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3772357 |
A firmware update should be able solve this issue. Hope Sony will fix this problem ASAP. |
Sure do! let's hope Sony will make the A7II's IBIS work with adapted lenses as well as it possibly can. ( freaked by the thought that obstacles could be there by intent ) _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:23 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
for now at least a workaround had been discovered, quote: "If you unmount (take off) an OSS lens without turning the camera off (or at least turn it off after you have removed the lens) then when you attach a third party (dumb) adaptor ‘steady shot’ (IBIS) continues to work normally" _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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