| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
 Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: Sonnar 1,5/50mm Contax RF mount/ strange adapter!!!!! |
 |
|
pich900 wrote:
Hi!
I recently acquired this beauty, a sonnar 1,5/50mm (contax RF mount) witch I would like to mount on my G1. On the lens was attach a verry strange "adapter" and I have no idea what is that  !!!!!
Here are some pictures of the lens and the "adapter":
I don't think it's an adapter but may be a part of a camera's mount! Does someone has may be an idea what is that and if I can use that as an adapter???
An other question: the focus ring seems to be out of work (no way to move the ring!) so if I want to use this lens, I would have to let it repair. It seems to be very difficult to open (I see no screw!) but your advise are also welcome! I'm afraid I would have to let it do by a service company , any address from service company who could do that job???
Thanks in advance for your help/advises.
Pascal |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 4045
Location: Netherlands
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Spotmatic wrote:
Congratulations with your purchase! I should have bid a bit more 
If I see this right then this is a standard Contax RF mount lens; I see the bayonet on the lens. Such lenses have their focusing helicoid inside the camera and can be focused through a focusing wheel on the camera.
Like this:
I'm not really into Contax RF mount lenses at the moment, but I think adapters are available.
_________________
Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your answer  ....
Well, it seems then quite difficult to mount this lens on the G1 or it's means that I have to find an adapter with a helicoid ring ....if it does exist .....
I saw some adapter Contax RF/micro 4/3 but without helicoid ring  .....it's realy too bad  .......
See you Sunday to the Houten fair  .... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 363
Location: Hong Kong
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wilson.c wrote:
That's a nice lens you got there!!
There are adapters on eBay to adapt Contax RF lenses to m4/3. Be careful as some only adapt the outer flange which takes the wide angles and telephotos, but NOT the 50mm. You can see they don't have the helicoid on the adapter. I've got an example of my setup here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/contax-rf-biogon-21-4-5-samples-t25851.html
The Contax RF adapter converts to M39 LTM, then a LTM to Leica M and finally a Leical M to m4/3 adapter. If you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually use the helicoid and adapter on the camera and secure a Leica M mount on it.
Another good article is here.
http://www.cameraquest.com/adapter.htm
Hope that helps out.
_________________
Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Posts: 5028
Location: Southern Finland countryside
Expire: 2016-12-30
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
kansalliskala wrote:
It is part of camera you got with the lens?
_________________
MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
| wilson.c wrote: |
That's a nice lens you got there!!
There are adapters on eBay to adapt Contax RF lenses to m4/3. Be careful as some only adapt the outer flange which takes the wide angles and telephotos, but NOT the 50mm. You can see they don't have the helicoid on the adapter. I've got an example of my setup here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/contax-rf-biogon-21-4-5-samples-t25851.html
The Contax RF adapter converts to M39 LTM, then a LTM to Leica M and finally a Leical M to m4/3 adapter. If you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually use the helicoid and adapter on the camera and secure a Leica M mount on it.
Another good article is here.
http://www.cameraquest.com/adapter.htm
Hope that helps out. |
Hi Wilson!
Thanks for your reply and for the links  ..
Well, the sonnar is probably a good lens but it's mean than if I want to mount this lens on my G1, I would have to buy 3 adapters and then spend probably about 4 times the value of this lens ....if it's the only way to use this lens then it's not a verry good news .....
But I took a look on e-bay and I found this adapter:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Contax-RF-Nikon-S-to-Micro-4-3-four-thirds-adapter_W0QQitemZ130376673172QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item1e5b0e2794
Could you confirm if it's the right adapter for my lens and if I could focus with this one???
| kansalliskala wrote: |
| It is part of camera you got with the lens? |
I'm afraid so ... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 363
Location: Hong Kong
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
wilson.c wrote:
Wow! You certainly have good taste. I've heard that Amedeo makes one of the best made custom adapter around! This one should work like he's shown in the photos. Since you are using the EVF a very slight difference in the registration distance of Contax RF and Nikon RF would not be a big issue. I would double check to see if it focuses your 50mm to infinity.
As you can see in my photos, with a little care in removing the rear element protector of my Biogon 21mm/4.5 it will mount. However it becomes MUCH heavier than my Lumix 20mm/1.7 pancake lens
_________________
Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
| wilson.c wrote: |
| Wow! You certainly have good taste. I've heard that Amedeo makes one of the best made custom adapter around! This one should work like he's shown in the photos. Since you are using the EVF a very slight difference in the registration distance of Contax RF and Nikon RF would not be a big issue. I would double check to see if it focuses your 50mm to infinity. |
Hi Wilson!
Ok, I will follow this auction......but I'm still not sure if the price of this adapter is not too high for only one lens! I saw beautiful results with this lens mount on Contax and/or Leica M cam but I haven't seen any samples took with the G1 .........
| wilson.c wrote: |
| As you can see in my photos, with a little care in removing the rear element protector of my Biogon 21mm/4.5 it will mount. However it becomes MUCH heavier than my Lumix 20mm/1.7 pancake lens |
I took a look on your pictures made with the Biogon and to be honest with you, I'm not really impressed with the results .......I mean I expect better results with this kind of lenses, and I don't think it's coming from the biogon witch is for sure a very good lens.......All that makes me a little bit confused about using old (and expensive) Contax lenses on the G1!!!! And that's why I don't know for sure if I'm ready to spend more than 100€ for just an adapter ..... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 363
Location: Hong Kong
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wilson.c wrote:
Here are some shots off my Contax RF 50/1.5 in LTM on my GF-1 that I took a week or so ago. Weather's still pretty crap here so not the best for photos X-(
I think the lens is a keeper, but the down side is the additional adapter. If and when you do decide to sell it, I am sure the adapter will not loose too much value
I agree with you on the Biogon shots. They really did not stand out at all. It may be the cropping factor that's messing things up. I remember seeing the film results were quite impressive.
Here are some shots from my lens on a gray day, all wide open.
_________________
Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
Hi Wilson,
Thanks a lot for the samples ...It's for sure not bad at all especially if the weather/light was not so good....Are you sure that the 3rd shot was wide open? DOF looks like quite large and the sharpness is also much higher compare to the other shots  ......
Anyway, I would like to see more if you have that, especially bokey shot from this lens wide open ....
Thanks again for your help and good advises ..... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 363
Location: Hong Kong
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wilson.c wrote:
Sure thing, I'll try to take some shots over the weekend with the same lens you have and let you know. Hope the weather's improved.
_________________
Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
| wilson.c wrote: |
| Sure thing, I'll try to take some shots over the weekend with the same lens you have and let you know. Hope the weather's improved. |
Thanks ...
Was this shots not done with the same lens I have???
This afternoon, I have tried the sonnar mount on the D700 (with the adapter M42/Nikon fixed on the mount lens!) and I have got pretty good results, but of course only usable for macro shots  .... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 1745
Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
Expire: 2012-12-27
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
pich900 wrote:
just for the fun, here are some samples shoot with this lens mount on the Nikon D700:
I can focus at about 15cm from the subject so I guess I've got a rapport from almost 1:1! All the shots are @ f2.8 except nr 3 @ f1.5....
If I can't get an adapter to use this lens on the G1 then I could always use it as a macro lens on the Nikon cam ..... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 4045
Location: Netherlands
|
| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Spotmatic wrote:
Nice Sonnar bokeh!
_________________
Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 363
Location: Hong Kong
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
wilson.c wrote:
Some more shots from my Contax RF Sonnar 50mm 1.5 here.
http://forum.mflenses.com/contax-rf-carl-zeiss-sonnar-50mm-1-5-t26630.html
_________________
Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Search
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
