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pdccameras
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:16 am Post subject: Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9 chrome on Sony A7 Mii |
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pdccameras wrote:
Here are some shots from and of a Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9. I think Walter G has/had one of these, but hard to tell from the thread if he has the Y------ serial number chrome version with the side arm actuator. The model I have is chrome version, which was the normal lens for the Miranda A, AII and B models - the first of that brand's lever wind SLRs. The Miranda A debuted along with this lens in 1958.
Quite a nice piece of glass in a heavy chromed Aluminum & brass mount. it has an Exacta-style semiautomatic diaphragm actuator and a six-bladed aperture. I haven't tested the lens formally, but in the time I have had it out, I have found that the lens is quite sharp, especially from f/5.6 to f/11, with f/8 being optimum. I have found very little vignetting, typical flare resistance and purple fringing for this kind of single coated , 5-element optic. The bokeh is definitely swirly wide open and the overall character is very classic, much like the early Pentax 50 mm Gauss designs, right down to the warmish color balance. A nice feature of this lens is its MFD of 13". The focus ring is engraved in feet in black lettering from 3ft to infinity, and from 13" - 30" in red lettering on the close focus end.
It's a very handsome lens. Some pics of the lens follow with a few samples from tonight's walk with the lens mounted on a Sony A7II via a Miranda - Sony E adapter (from ramir73 on eBay).
 _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:06 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Good job, and Miranda certainly was a high quality effort, at least in its early days, and very innovative as well. Much of the Miranda line is lovely and often very clever.
I have a fair collection of late-60s - early 70s Miranda gear. No comparison in build quality to the early stuff.
It was under-resourced relative to the bigger players and this showed in many ways, especially a few years down the road. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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pdccameras
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
Thanks, Luis!
This particular lens is incredibly well finished - certainly on par mechanically with Voigtlander, Schneider and Steinheil.
I have two copies of this lens, and both are very shiny! My spare is on Ebay right now. In addition to the 50mm f/1.9 and its accompanying A body, I have a few knob wind bodies and a fairly complete Miranda G outfit (c. 1968) The Miranda G is an extremely well thought out, and well made body with many features which were only found on pro bodies at the time. It also rivaled, IMHO, the aesthetic body stying of the Spotmatic. Unfortunately, I don't think subsequent Sensomat, Sensorex, and later bodies lived up to the refined good looks and operability of the G series.
Best,
Paul
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papasito
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:22 am Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
The "G" model was the rival of the Nikon F
Somebody said that Nikon bought Miranda. |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have a Miranda G and an REII, a later successor. Same basic body, and the REII takes its accessories, or most of them.
But not the lenses with "arms", sadly. Otherwise the REII really is a rather impressive camera.
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-miranda-25mm-f-2-8-miranda-reii-t75354,highlight,%2Bmiranda.html
This was the lower cost series of Mirandas, the Automex/Sensorex (I have a couple of these also) were the full featured models with open aperture metering. Miranda maintained a high and low series from the early 1960's almost to its end.
The G's and the rest of that low end (the later Sensomat and RE's) used the same body casting (or extremely similar) to the original Mirandas, the high end were a larger casting. Both had interchangeable finders, but there were large and small series of these, intended respectively for the high and low end bodies. The big Mirandas are definitely clunky, the small ones are as elegant as any early SLR's.
The G I have has the classic Miranda fault of a jammed shutter, which is harder to fix than the same on a Spotmatic.
Miranda was bought in the mid-1960's by Allied Impex, AKA Soligor, the only Japanese camera maker acquired by an American firm. Allied Impex was not good at running it and it seems it was addicted to short term, retail thinking. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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pdccameras
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pdccameras wrote:
Fascinating info, Luis! _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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vivaldibow
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9 chrome on Sony A7 Mii |
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vivaldibow wrote:
| pdccameras wrote: |
Here are some shots from and of a Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9. I think Walter G has/had one of these, but hard to tell from the thread if he has the Y------ serial number chrome version with the side arm actuator. The model I have is chrome version, which was the normal lens for the Miranda A, AII and B models - the first of that brand's lever wind SLRs. The Miranda A debuted along with this lens in 1958.
Quite a nice piece of glass in a heavy chromed Aluminum & brass mount. it has an Exacta-style semiautomatic diaphragm actuator and a six-bladed aperture. I haven't tested the lens formally, but in the time I have had it out, I have found that the lens is quite sharp, especially from f/5.6 to f/11, with f/8 being optimum. I have found very little vignetting, typical flare resistance and purple fringing for this kind of single coated , 5-element optic. The bokeh is definitely swirly wide open and the overall character is very classic, much like the early Pentax 50 mm Gauss designs, right down to the warmish color balance. A nice feature of this lens is its MFD of 13". The focus ring is engraved in feet in black lettering from 3ft to infinity, and from 13" - 30" in red lettering on the close focus end.
It's a very handsome lens. Some pics of the lens follow with a few samples from tonight's walk with the lens mounted on a Sony A7II via a Miranda - Sony E adapter (from ramir73 on eBay).
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Nice lens and nice pictures. I guess ramir73 on ebay has many of these "home" made adapters. How good are they? |
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visualopsins
 Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10370 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
@vivaldibow, a tip:), tap Reply button instead of Quote link to avoid repeating long list of images unnecessarily. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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pdccameras
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9 chrome on Sony A7 Mii |
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pdccameras wrote:
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| Nice lens and nice pictures. I guess ramir73 on ebay has many of these "home" made adapters. How good are they? |
I have been very pleased with ramir73's adapters. He works out the prototypes here and then sends the designs overseas for production. The finish is a little rough, but I have never had a problem with fit or function, and his service is excellent. Very nice to deal with.
Best,
Paul _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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vivaldibow
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9 chrome on Sony A7 Mii |
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vivaldibow wrote:
| pdccameras wrote: |
| pdccameras wrote: |
| Nice lens and nice pictures. I guess ramir73 on ebay has many of these "home" made adapters. How good are they? |
I have been very pleased with ramir73's adapters. He works out the prototypes here and then sends the designs overseas for production. The finish is a little rough, but I have never had a problem with fit or function, and his service is excellent. Very nice to deal with.
Best,
Paul |
Thanks, Paul, for your information. I noticed him when I checked Topcor UV to Nex. The adapter is on the expensive side but since it is customized and it is understandable. |
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walter g
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9 chrome on Sony A7 Mii |
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walter g wrote:
| pdccameras wrote: |
Here are some shots from and of a Soligor Miranda 50mm f/1.9. I think Walter G has/had one of these, but hard to tell from the thread if he has the Y------ serial number chrome version with the side arm actuator. The model I have is chrome version, which was the normal lens for the Miranda A, AII and B models - the first of that brand's lever wind SLRs. The Miranda A debuted along with this lens in 1958.
Quite a nice piece of glass in a heavy chromed Aluminum & brass mount. it has an Exacta-style semiautomatic diaphragm actuator and a six-bladed aperture. I haven't tested the lens formally, but in the time I have had it out, I have found that the lens is quite sharp, especially from f/5.6 to f/11, with f/8 being optimum. I have found very little vignetting, typical flare resistance and purple fringing for this kind of single coated , 5-element optic. The bokeh is definitely swirly wide open and the overall character is very classic, much like the early Pentax 50 mm Gauss designs, right down to the warmish color balance. A nice feature of this lens is its MFD of 13". The focus ring is engraved in feet in black lettering from 3ft to infinity, and from 13" - 30" in red lettering on the close focus end.
It's a very handsome lens. Some pics of the lens follow with a few samples from tonight's walk with the lens mounted on a Sony A7II via a Miranda - Sony E adapter (from ramir73 on eBay).
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I wish I had one of these, but I don't. I have the black Auto Miranda 50mm f1.9, with arm, clickless aperture, and 46mm filter thread. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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