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rhph
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 Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: Soligor 60-300 - A scratch inside |
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rhph wrote:
Hello there!
I recently got a nice Soligor 60-300 4-5.6. It has a few problems like a few specks of dust, but I'm more concerned about a scratch inside. It looks like this.http://imgur.com/wMDIWYC
It goes all across the lens with some curves in between. Any idea if that's something serious like infection or "just" a scratch made during "a repair"? Otherwise it's a pretty good lens and I cannot see any optical influence of that scratch or whatever it is.
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It looks like I cant post or link to images. Can I work around it somehow? |
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JJB
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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JJB wrote:
Your images will not show up in your first post to the forum. Try posting it a second time and it should appear.
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rhph
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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rhph wrote:
Oh, I see, thank you 
// updated the original post. |
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Gardener
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
1. Stop thinking of specks of dust as a problem. They are not. Even when there's quite a bit of them. Even clumps of dirt often aren't. Look up lensrentals article on extracting a dead fly out of a lens. Or google up a discussion on hazed M-Rokkors.
2. Your picture is not large/sharp enough to say with any degree of certainty what is that that you have there but it does not feel like a scratch - scratches rarely have such complicated shapes. That being said, brassing on the retaining ring suggests that someone [not quite capable] was in there. |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome rhph!
Nice lens.
Echo others -- not to worry; use it as is; there shouldn't be any effect, except...
Scratch will cause flare if light hits lens surface at the correct angle(s). Sometimes the element can be rotated to change the flare angle to a more convenient position.
Is the scratch on the outer surface? Can you feel it with fingernail? Fill with black ink to minimize flare.
Disassemble of such a complicated multiple element multiple helical zoom lens is probably not for the inexperienced...
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rhph
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:09 am Post subject: |
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rhph wrote:
Thanks for all the replies!
I tried to get better shot of that scratch but it's quite difficult. Scratched lens is located in the middle of the body so it's not easy to manipulate with light (torch) in one hand and camera in the other to get it visible.
Last weekend I took quite a few photos with it and I can see only a few dust specks(small and blurry) on one or two photos(sky mostly), but I know where to look  No scratch visible though.
So, after taking a few photos with this lens I can say that I like it. A lot! And I hope I will get better at focusing, ha! |
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Gardener
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
| rhph wrote: |
| Last weekend I took quite a few photos with it and I can see only a few dust specks(small and blurry) on one or two photos(sky mostly), |
You certain they are not on the sensor? |
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Rigel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Rigel wrote:
Well, I bought a very cheap Vivitar 135mm f2.8 where the owner thought that it was a hair or something, but it really is a nasty scratch probably made by someone who "serviced" the lens .. Except for this the lens is in "mint" (haha) condition. It is on the second element ... It doesn't seem to show up much on the pictures ... ok for $ 16.5 (€ 15) I don't feel ripped off too much
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rhph
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:00 am Post subject: |
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rhph wrote:
| Gardener wrote: |
| rhph wrote: |
| Last weekend I took quite a few photos with it and I can see only a few dust specks(small and blurry) on one or two photos(sky mostly), |
You certain they are not on the sensor? |
They're not visible on my kit lens so I'm pretty sure |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
| rhph wrote: |
| Gardener wrote: |
| rhph wrote: |
| Last weekend I took quite a few photos with it and I can see only a few dust specks(small and blurry) on one or two photos(sky mostly), |
You certain they are not on the sensor? |
They're not visible on my kit lens so I'm pretty sure |
To check for sensor dust stop down lens to maximum, make picture of sky -- sensor dust will show in image especially if contrast is increased.
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Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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