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tezomoy
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 Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:07 am Post subject: soligor 28mm optical design or parts manual |
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Can any one provide me the Optical Design or parts manual of Soligor 28mm f2.8 wide auto or Tokina 28mm f2.8 Wide-auto??Its urgent..Thank you
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JJB
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JJB wrote:
Another version of the CD/wide auto 28mm 2.8 with 55mm filter ring, SN 2805111.
This has a Konica AR mount.
Compared to the image on the first page of this thread, the focusing ring has identical markings and knurled ring appears to be same size, design, and texture.
The markings on the aperture ring are different. It has 28mm at the front instead of at the end. At the end is EE in green. EE was used in early renditions of Konica AR lenses (early 70s or thereabouts?) but fairly quickly shifted to AE. The part with the markings is recessed and smooth all the way around.
Here are some images of the lens:
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Oldhand wrote:
I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
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Oldhand wrote:
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I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
OH |
OK here are some piccies.
Not a 28mm but interesting for its serial number nonetheless.
Again - not my lens - but images borrowed from an ebay listing for reference purposes.
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RTLdan wrote:
Hi Everyone!
I'm glad to have found this thread while searching google for info on this lens I picked up the other day.
I'm completely unfamiliar with the lens mount, and I couldn't find any info on one exactly like it anywhere in the 15 pages (although, one of you had a picture that looked like mine!)
Soligor 28mm Auto-Wide, 58mm filter, 173xxxxx serial no.,
Any thoughts on the mount type?
All help is much appreciated!
Thanks!
-Daniel
P.S. - Sorry for the quick iphone photos of the lens.
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RTLdan
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RTLdan wrote:
Weird..my photos seem to be broken?
I tried with photobucket as well as the built in uploader.
Am I doing something wrong?
-Daniel
EDIT: Now they seem to be appearing! Not sure what was happening. |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Hi Daniel, welcome to the forum. 
You can't post photos or links in your first post, an anti-spam measure. You'll be ok from now on.
Your lens, although branded Soligor, was manufactured by Tokina as denoted by the serial number starting with 17. On a cropped sensor camera it shouldn't be a bad performer stopped down a few stops. The mount is Canon FD.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: soligor 28mm optical design or parts manual |
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visualopsins wrote:
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| Can any one provide me the Optical Design or parts manual of Soligor 28mm f2.8 wide auto or Tokina 28mm f2.8 Wide-auto??Its urgent..Thank you |
Welcome tezomoy!
There are over 21 versions, including several by Tokina. If you post a photo of the lens we might be able to help you. 
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Lloydy wrote:
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I have just noticed a Soligor with H34XXX serial.
Not a Kawanon(?) as that is maybe H37XXX
Maybe it is simply a H3XXXX serial.
Sooooo what then ...................
Picture to come.
OH |
OK here are some piccies.
Not a 28mm but interesting for its serial number nonetheless.
Again - not my lens - but images borrowed from an ebay listing for reference purposes.
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I though to myself "that's exactly the same as mine" - then I looked at it. The numbers has the H prefix, and it's not that far apart either; about 8,000. But there are a lot of differences.
The front name ring, all different. Smallest aperture f16 on my lens, f22 on the ebay listed one, and they go in opposite directions. Also the stop down ring is different. The focus distance scale is tapered on my lens, and parrallel on the ebay lens. The focus mark is different, and the engravings are different colours. The focus ring is shorter on mine, as is the plain bit between the aperture ring and the front edge of the lens.
Which proves very little I know, other than sorting out who made what for Soligor a nightmare. Small differences could easily be an evolutionary thing in the manufacturing, but why would they change something like the rotation of the aperture ring?
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RTLdan
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RTLdan wrote:
| DigiChromeEd wrote: |
Hi Daniel, welcome to the forum.
You can't post photos or links in your first post, an anti-spam measure. You'll be ok from now on.
Your lens, although branded Soligor, was manufactured by Tokina as denoted by the serial number starting with 17. On a cropped sensor camera it shouldn't be a bad performer stopped down a few stops. The mount is Canon FD. |
Hi DigiChrome!
Thanks for the response, and sorry for my late reply.
That makes sense about the photos.
I was afraid the mount might be an FD! I've got a Canon 6D and was intending to adapt it for use with EOS mount,
but it looks like there are some problems with flange distance and infinity focus between FD and EOS.
Oh well, I only paid $15. Maybe someone on craigslist will be willing to pay that!
Thanks again!
-Daniel
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biggles3
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biggles3 wrote:
As an earlier post correctly stated, the #88.. lenses have a Contax/Yashica mount and it looks like they were made at the Tomioka facility owned by Yashica/Kyocera. I have spotted an identical lens (28mm f2.8 Macro with a 49mm ring) which appears as a Yashica MC prototype with the serial number being A00006 - a dealer in Vienna is asking £260 for this as it's unique, never having gone into production as part of the ML lens range. I don't think he'll ever sell it at that price, even though by all accounts it's a pretty good lens.
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H7
Preset
Closest focus is 0,45
T2 mount ?(first I've seen...)
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Pancolart wrote:
You can unscrew this spacer ring, and there is normal T2 beneath.
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turbo4door wrote:
Looking at a few 28 2.8's on ebay right now for my a6000. Is there a general consensus on which make is optically better than others? Should I go Sun, Tokina....not sure that it makes a huge difference but if one is particularly better than the rest I'd like to get that make.
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Demoncho
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Demoncho wrote:
Hi,
A few photos of my Soligor. I'm not sure about the manufacture.
I'm waiting for the adapter to EOS, not sure if it's worth in this version.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
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Hi,
A few photos of my Soligor. I'm not sure about the manufacture.
I'm waiting for the adapter to EOS, not sure if it's worth in this version.
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Here you go
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bornbad
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bornbad wrote:
Hi, I´m new here and just registered because of this:
I just bought this lense, maybe it helps to demistify the serial # 8
I think it should be a Cosina 24 2.8 Macro rebrand. I don`t find another lens that meets this specs.
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome bornbad!
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Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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Oldhand wrote:
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Hi, I´m new here and just registered because of this:
I just bought this lense, maybe it helps to demistify the serial # 8
I think it should be a Cosina 24 2.8 Macro rebrand. I don`t find another lens that meets this specs.
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bornbad
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bornbad wrote:
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Welcome bornbad! |
Why can`t I see my pics in my original post, just in your reply?? |
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bornbad
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bornbad wrote:
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Welcome bornbad! |
Why can`t I see my pics in my original post, just in your reply?? |
Now I see them ...strange |
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Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
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What is usual price for this lens?
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bornbad wrote:
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| What is usual price for this lens? |
I got mine for Pentax KA for 59 €.
One offer for Olympus was at 59 € (but ended without sell) and one for Fujica AX is in the bay for 62,30 (or offer).
Maybe a little too expensive, I will test it soon.
There is also a manual to buy for 3,00 €
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No I`m pretty sure it`s NOT the Cosinus 24 2,8 Macro, because my Soligor has 6 bades not 5 as the cosinus.
My weights 205 gr, the Cosinus only 170.
I don`t know now which is the probable producer :
Tokina only has max aperture 16
Ensinor no A
my guess is maybe Sigma, but did they produce for reseller?! |
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