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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: Soligor 100/f2.8 Macro 1:2 or 1:1 with adapter M42 mount |
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ducdao wrote:
Any one heard of it? I did search the internet but can't find anything about it
Here is the picture of the lens from the seller.
_________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Soligor 100/f2.8 Macro 1:2 or 1:1 with adapter M42 mount |
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PBFACTS wrote:
ducdao wrote: |
Any one heard of it? I did search the internet but can't find anything about it |
If you have a front pic of the lens, i could confirm you the origin or the lens
Aniway, Soligor sold in the first batch of c/d lenses (~1975) a 100mm macro _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Univer
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 282
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi,
I've owned (briefly) two of these lenses. Each was in cosmetically flawless condition - absolutely no evidence of abuse - but was an irremediable disaster in mechanical terms. (I thought the first might have been an isolated case; that's why I tried again.) The aperture mechanism was faulty in both lenses, and the focus ring of one of them wouldn't turn (hard stop, as if something was physically preventing movement) beyond about 10 feet. One of them, I recall, also had a problem with lubricant seeping out in several places. I never managed to take a photo with either one. Both went back to the respective sellers.
The 1:1 tube is simply an extension tube designed to match the lens (unlike, say, the 1:1 attachment for the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 Macro).
The lens doesn't seem to turn up often, and there's little information out there about it. Based on my experience, I can't recommend it - although it's possible, of course, that I somehow wound up with two lemons. Somehow, though, I doubt that.
Personally, I have no intention of giving this lens a third chance. But I suppose that if one were to turn up at a really attractive price (really attractive), with assurances of its mechanical soundness, and with a reasonable return policy in effect, a case could be made for trying it out.
Cheers,
Jon |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Univer wrote: |
Hi,
I've owned (briefly) two of these lenses. Each was in cosmetically flawless condition - absolutely no evidence of abuse - but was an irremediable disaster in mechanical terms. (I thought the first might have been an isolated case; that's why I tried again.) The aperture mechanism was faulty in both lenses, and the focus ring of one of them wouldn't turn (hard stop, as if something was physically preventing movement) beyond about 10 feet. One of them, I recall, also had a problem with lubricant seeping out in several places. I never managed to take a photo with either one. Both went back to the respective sellers.
The 1:1 tube is simply an extension tube designed to match the lens (unlike, say, the 1:1 attachment for the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 Macro).
The lens doesn't seem to turn up often, and there's little information out there about it. Based on my experience, I can't recommend it - although it's possible, of course, that I somehow wound up with two lemons. Somehow, though, I doubt that.
Personally, I have no intention of giving this lens a third chance. But I suppose that if one were to turn up at a really attractive price (really attractive), with assurances of its mechanical soundness, and with a reasonable return policy in effect, a case could be made for trying it out.
Cheers,
Jon |
Thanks, Jon. Very insightful. Since I can't really test the lens I guess I'll pass then. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor 100/f2.8 Macro 1:2 or 1:1 with adapter M42 mount |
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ducdao wrote:
PBFACTS wrote: |
ducdao wrote: |
Any one heard of it? I did search the internet but can't find anything about it |
If you have a front pic of the lens, i could confirm you the origin or the lens
Aniway, Soligor sold in the first batch of c/d lenses (~1975) a 100mm macro |
Hi I have posted the pix that the seller sent me. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
1975 Tokina made but dosen't have the C/D markings.
So where is the front element? _________________
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
I was going to pass but the owner came back with an offer that I couldn't resist so here I am with a new lens.
The build quality is not great, unlike the previous poster, I'm lucky enough that the lens seems working fine. Aperture blades are clean and focus ring is fine, not silky smooth but just ok.
Here are some pictures I took this morning with this lens with its extension to make macro at 1:1.
All images taken with Pentax K100D at f11 ISO200 with Nikon SB24 flash.
More photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunny_skye/sets/72157624735398805/ _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
M42: Too many to list
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Well, sure looks crisp enough. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Well, sure looks crisp enough. |
I thought so too. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10528 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:52 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Wow! Results look from a fine macro lens to me. Of course being a fine photographer helps. Nice, ducdao!
@walter g, the front element is recessed quite deeply... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Wow! Results look from a fine macro lens to me. Of course being a fine photographer helps. Nice, ducdao!
@walter g, the front element is recessed quite deeply... |
Thanks! Still need to spend more time with the lens though. It's so heavy with the adapter. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Few more with this beauty. Taken with K100D and Vivitar 285HV flash.
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_________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Sorry to revive an old thread but after having this lens and using it intensively for macro, I can say that I'm really impressed with this lens for its macro capabilities, especially at 1:1.
Here is the actual picture of the lens in case you can find one on sale.
Another image recently captured with this lens.
_________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Well, thank you for the revival of this topic.
It surely is a very good macro lens ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3214 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Tell me you don't use that vitacon-whatever filter when you shoot macro. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: |
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ducdao wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Tell me you don't use that vitacon-whatever filter when you shoot macro. |
NO, I don't
I just put it on for storage, I don't use front cap as it blocks light and that could potentially generate fungus as I live in Vietnam and it's extremely humid. This lens is way too big to fit in my dry cabinet. I take the filter off when shooting. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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mjww
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Location: Cayman Islands
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:42 pm Post subject: Soligor100mm c/d macro |
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mjww wrote:
Interesting that 2 years later, the same lens shown at the start of this post is up for sale on ebay! |
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Himself
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor100mm c/d macro |
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Himself wrote:
mjww wrote: |
Interesting that 2 years later, the same lens shown at the start of this post is up for sale on ebay! |
Life is full of surprises, isn't it? _________________ Moderator Himself |
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clockwork247
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor100mm c/d macro |
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clockwork247 wrote:
Himself wrote: |
mjww wrote: |
Interesting that 2 years later, the same lens shown at the start of this post is up for sale on ebay! |
Life is full of surprises, isn't it? |
is it the OP reselling the lens? |
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ducdao
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 288 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor100mm c/d macro |
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ducdao wrote:
clockwork247 wrote: |
Himself wrote: |
mjww wrote: |
Interesting that 2 years later, the same lens shown at the start of this post is up for sale on ebay! |
Life is full of surprises, isn't it? |
is it the OP reselling the lens? |
Yah I'm putting it up on eBay. Only ship to Canada and ConUSA, though.
I simply have too many macro lenses. _________________ Duc
Pentax K100D/K10D/K20D/K-x/K-7 | DA15/ 35/40/70 Limited | DA10-17 | DA14 | DA* 50-135
Takumar: 24/3.5 | 28/3.5 | 35/2 | 35/2.3 | 35/3.5 | 50/1.4 | 55/1.8 | 85/1.8 | 85/1.9 | 105f2.8 | 135/2.5 | 135/3.5 | 150/4 | 200/4 | 300/4
Pentax: K20/4 | M20/4 | M28/3.5 | K30/2.8 | K35/3.5 | M50/1.4 | M50/1.7 | K50/1.2 | K50/1.4 | K55/1.8 | A50/1.4 | M85/2 | M100/2.8 | K105/2.8 | M100/f4 | M135/3.5 | K135/2.5 | M150/4 | M200/4 | M300/4
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