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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 am Post subject: SMC Pentax-M 135/3.5 |
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Kamerer wrote:
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My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
This is a lovely little lens - very small and light.
I like mine for landscapes.
Yours is plenty sharp enough. Thanks for sharing these
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MMouse
Joined: 18 Apr 2018 Posts: 58
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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MMouse wrote:
Seems sharp but bokeh on the first one is very distracting. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I haven't used mine a lot yet. At 3.5 it is not a bokeh monster, but in this case the wire fence probably has a lot to do with it. This was taken with the K-5
Bench Bokeh by The lens profile, on Flickr _________________ pentaxian |
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 343
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:18 am Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
Very nice samples! Does anybody know how this version of this 135/3.5 lens compares to other versions? |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
invisible wrote: |
Very nice samples! Does anybody know how this version of this 135/3.5 lens compares to other versions? |
There are comparisons over on the Pentax Lenses website:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/
This lens' great asset is its size and weight.
Not a bokeh monster as other 135's are but a very capable lens nonetheless.
Also relatively cheap
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invisible
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 343
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:07 am Post subject: |
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invisible wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
invisible wrote: |
Very nice samples! Does anybody know how this version of this 135/3.5 lens compares to other versions? |
There are comparisons over on the Pentax Lenses website:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/
This lens' great asset is its size and weight.
Not a bokeh monster as other 135's are but a very capable lens nonetheless.
Also relatively cheap
Tom |
Thank you for this. I thought there was an A version, but it looks like the f/3.5 was discontinued after the M version. There is a K version which (going by the reviews on that page) is rated similarly to the M version. However, they have a different number of aperture blades and also a different number of groups/elements. The non-M appears to be slightly sharper, but also heavier. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
invisible wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
invisible wrote: |
Very nice samples! Does anybody know how this version of this 135/3.5 lens compares to other versions? |
There are comparisons over on the Pentax Lenses website:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/
This lens' great asset is its size and weight.
Not a bokeh monster as other 135's are but a very capable lens nonetheless.
Also relatively cheap
Tom |
Thank you for this. I thought there was an A version, but it looks like the f/3.5 was discontinued after the M version. There is a K version which (going by the reviews on that page) is rated similarly to the M version. However, they have a different number of aperture blades and also a different number of groups/elements. The non-M appears to be slightly sharper, but also heavier. |
Yes, the K version is about one-third heavier again as well as one third longer.
The convenience of the M version is its big advantage. I use it for landscapes because it is so easy to carry about.
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:55 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
These aren't bad lenses by any means, but there are so many decent 135s out there, I have never understood why these are considered so highly. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:38 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
These aren't bad lenses by any means, but there are so many decent 135s out there, I have never understood why these are considered so highly. |
Because they are pretty compact, there are a lot of them, so they are great value. Also being from the late seventies/early eighties coatings are relatively modern. The Pentax-m lenses were designed to be very compact.
A lot of the earlier K-mount lenses were the same as takumars with a different mount. I guess compactness became an issue when cameras got to be more mass market articles. From the k series to the M-series only the 50mm 1.4 and the 50 and 100 F4 macro lens designs survived. (There were some new lens designs in the K series though but they are unique to the series, generally very good lenses and pretty sought after.) _________________ pentaxian |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2929 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Olympus OM series cameras and lenses were a huge impetus toward smaller 35mm SLR's. My first camera, an OM-1, was dramatically smaller than my Mom's FTb. Both had the 50mm 1.8 kit lenses. Oly lens was every bit as good. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Paul
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 173 Location: Hamburg-Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Paul wrote:
After the Olympus OM-1 Pentax followed with the very compact ME and MX and the M-series of their lenses.
I had many 135mm-lenses - both the K and M 3.5 as well.
The K 3.5 is not only bigger and heavier but it doesn't have a built-in lens-hood but a screw-in one. this makes it even bigger.
I have a test of all 135mm-lenses from the early 1980's from a german photo magazin (ColorFoto) and waht they found out :
The K has a bit more sharpness but both have their sharpness across the whole Image right to the corners.
The K 2.5 is said to be better - and on film slr I found that to be true but not so on dslr. On dslr it's a bit tricky and the small M 3.5 much easier to use.
The M has different colours than the K Version too!
I loved the M much more and therefore sold the K and K 2.5 and bought me an additional M.
As for a comparison against other 135mm lenses:
The A 2.8 is not better but wide open less sharp.
The A* 1.8 is the best 135-lens I ever had.
(still sad that I sold it - and the other A*-lenses - years ago due to financial problems)
I also have a Canon dslr and what I found out with adapted manual lenses:
The Olympus 2.8/135 is very sharp - even if the test result of ColorFoto wasn't that good.
The Rollei 2.8/135 should expect better results but I found it only on film slr to be a great lens but nothing better (if not worse) on a dslr.
The best short tele manual focus lens I have is the Tamron SP 2.8/90 macro (adaptall-system).
BTW compared to the well regarded Canon L 4/70-200.... _________________ Paul
(SLR-experiences since 1981)
Pentax and Canon - Sony digital as well
too many lenses and flashes |
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y
Joined: 11 Aug 2013 Posts: 304 Location: EU
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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y wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
From the k series to the M-series only the 50mm 1.4 and the 50 and 100 F4 macro lens designs survived. |
Just nitpicking. The K SMC 50/1.4 is a direct copy of SMC Takumar. It uses thoriated glass as Takumar does. On the other hand, the M SMC 50/1.4 is a bit smaller and doesn't use thoriated glass.
So the M SMC 50/1.4 isn't really a survivor from the K-series. |
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