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Pancolart
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 Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: Shortest possible flange |
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Pancolart wrote:
Can someone tell me which of the Mirror-Less digital cameras allows shortest flange shooting? I don't mean original mount / lens combination. I search for around 5mm solution.
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Scheimpflug
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Shortest possible flange |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Is mirror lock-up and/or destructive camera modification an option?
Do you need live-view, or would you focus via rangefinder?
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Any view if fine, mirror lockup is fine, i just need to reach 5mm and retain fast shutter ability. I have cracked few digital compacts for that purpose since they became dead when zoom is disassembled ;(. I am leaning toward Pentax Kx at the moment.
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Scheimpflug
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
You could get an early Kodak DCS. They are just basic film bodies with digital backs grafted on, so in theory you could modify the body to let you mount a lens right up against the focal plane shutter.
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Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
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Pancolart
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Pancolart wrote:
This is pretty cool but i guess due to chip being pretty obsolete lenses with smaller image (diameter 1cm-1,5cm) wouldn't make photo of adequate quality.
How close to chip shutter travels with DCS Kodaks?
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Scheimpflug
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Not sure, but the shutter-to-sensor distance would be the same as the shutter-to-film distance in a regular camera.
If you need a larger sensor, you could do the same operation with a medium format digital back...
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Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
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pat donnelly
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pat donnelly wrote:
Intriguing?
That must be some lens?
May I suggest that the advice is good and maybe use a macro set up to keep both lens and camera back/sensor apart with minimal damage? Set a limit on one side so no scraping of the sensor. Cover with a black lightproof plastic or cloth.
Looking forward to seeing the results!
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