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jamaeolus
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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pm Post subject: SCHNEIDER-KREUZNACH KREONITE BETAVARON 3.5...11/0.08 |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I watched auctions for 6 months before one of these came up.
Challenging to work with but so sharp it makes a razor look dull.
I can get infinity at one end of the zoom. These were taken using a tripod, macro rail, and the zoom mechanism plus many shifts of the tripod to get framing and focus both correct. If anybody is familiar with using this for macro please let me know any tricks!
Here is a 100% crop:
Here's the shot.
another crop.
some shots:
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calvin83 wrote:
I used want one of these but I ended up give up after sometime. It is hard to use than a normal macro lens. But if you can overcome its limit, it can give you excellent result, as you prove it yourself.
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
As I mentioned it is a serious challenge to compose and focus. In a studio setting it might be easier, using a dolly and a macro rail both. It takes large movements of the camera to get it into focus and the"zoom" goes the opposite way of what you would expect. Lots of fussing involved. But when you nail the focus it is just stellar if you want great color and extremely crisp focus.
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kds315* wrote:
 nice results you got!!
I have two slightly different variants since many years, quite cheap then:
http://www.macrolenses.de/ml_detail.php?ObjektiveNr=8
http://www.macrolenses.de/ml_detail.php?ObjektiveNr=163
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
I don't think I did too bad, 87 usd
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uddhava
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uddhava wrote:
Interesting! |
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Pancolart wrote:
Interesting design: https://post.smzdm.com/p/517613/pic_7/#bigImg
or see 8th photo: http://www.ebay.in/geb/ImportHubViewItem?itemid=262575704094
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
Klaus, mine came with what appears to be a 39mm jam nut stuck to a nikon cap. Or perhaps it is a VERY robust nikon 39mm cap? What is the proper cap, if there is one?
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kds315*
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kds315* wrote:
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| I don't think I did too bad, 87 usd |
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| Klaus, mine came with what appears to be a 39mm jam nut stuck to a nikon cap. Or perhaps it is a VERY robust nikon 39mm cap? What is the proper cap, if there is one? |
I got mine used, without cap. It's an enlarger lens, a jum nut could make sense...
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
Klaus Mine is slightly different from the ones you post. The zoom range is 3 to 11, and the objective is NOT recessed. Which is a bit scary! Any idea what the aperture numbers correspond to? FL of 50 to 125mm?
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kds315* wrote:
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| Klaus Mine is slightly different from the ones you post. The zoom range is 3 to 11, and the objective is NOT recessed. Which is a bit scary! Any idea what the aperture numbers correspond to? FL of 50 to 125mm? |
Hmm, different, more recent version I guess. My 3...10 is 50mm ... 125mm focal length, yours might be 50mm ... 150mm (?)
Does it look like this one? Click here to see on Ebay This is 3.5 ... 11
Show pictures of it please!!
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
Yes that is the style. It is very heavy, zoom is extremely smooth, aperture clicks at numbers but can easily stop at half numbers. It is in extremely good shape. These must have been quite expensive when new. I can't imagine they had millions of copies to defray development cost and it is clearly top of the line optical equipment. Using it is both a joy and a challenge!
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jamaeolus wrote:
 This is from the sellers auction photo. It's mounted on the camera a7ii at th moment. I'll try to snap some shots of it a bit later.
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jamaeolus wrote:
A shot of an aphid on a yellow tulip.
and the crop
 as I said challenging but rewarding. Likely not gonna work on a moving insect....
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kds315* wrote:
Looks darn good!!!
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
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jamaeolus wrote:
Thanks Klaus, Enrico Savazzi has some info about it here:
http://www.savazzi.net/photography/betavaron.htm
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