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Spotmatic


Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 2102 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: Sankyo Koki Komura f=80mm 1:1.8 first test shots |
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I have received this lens in the mail today (more on that in the Manual Focus Lenses section later).
My preliminary verdict: I'm glad that the lens does not behave like my other portrait lenses, but really has its own character. Wide open it has a nice glow around the subject and that really works well in portraits I think (especially in no. 1; no. 2 is at f/2.8 ). However; it sharpens up nicely after a few clicks of the (pre-set) diaphragm. The roof shot is at f/5.6.
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Pentax K-7 + Pentax 645 + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, Bessa II Apo-Lanthar and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - S-M-C Takumar 85mm f/1.8 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Komura 85mm f/1.4 - Accura Supertel Tc 1:1.9 f=85mm - Jupiter-9 2/85 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 75mm f/1.5 Biotar - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical - Enna München Ennalyt 85mm f/1.5 - Olympus Zuiko Auto-T MC 85mm f/2 |
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Nesster


Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 2324 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely looks like an effective and characterful tool. Very nice lens, very alluring photos. _________________ -Jussi
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35mm: Pentax: SP, ES II, KX, Program Plus, ZX-10, ZX-L, Fuji ST605n, Yashica: TL Electro-X, T4, Olympus OM2s, Nikon FE, EM, Konica Autoreflex TC, C-35,Kodak Retina IIa, IIc, ,Minolta A-2, Fed-3 120: Pentax 645 Voigtlander: Rollfilmkamera 6x9 Skopar 1933, Bessa 6x9 Skopar '37, Bessa 66 6x6 Skopar '38, Bessa I 6x9 & 6x4.5 Vaskar '50s, Certo Super Sport Dolly 1) Xenar '37 2) Victar '38, Ricoh Diacord G, Yashica Mat 124G, lenses: Takumar: Super, S-M-C 3.5/28mm; S-M-C 3.5/35mm; Super, SMC 1.4/50; Macro 4/50, Auto, S-M-C 1.8/55mm, S-M-C 2.8/105mm, Tele 5.6/200mm K-mount: SMC-A 2.8/28mm, SMC-M 1.7/50mm, 43mm and 70mm limited Nikkor: N 2.8/24, 2/35, E1.8/50, Micro 3.5/55 Zuiko: 1.4/50mm, 1.8/50mm, 2/85mm T/T4/Tx: Viv 3.8/21mm, Viv 2.5/28mm, Sol 2.8/105mm, Viv 3.5/200mm, Viv 90-230, Soligor C/D 8/500mm Adaptall: SP 35-80 CF 01a, 80-210 103a, SP 90 Macro 52bb + ext tube + 2x flat field converter Misc M42: Yashinon DX 2.8/35mm, DS-M 1.7/50mm, DX 2.8/135mm, Rikenon 2.8/135mm, too much to list... M39: Jupiter-12, Industar-61
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tobbsman


Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1310 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The glow is out-of-this-world! ... gives a special note to the photographs.
1,6,7 are my faves.
And I especially like #8 ... the sarcastic version on "nederlandse klompen"
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8, SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC)
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 27503 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps not a top lens , but damn rare! I am green from envy I like it very much ! Great samples! _________________
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martinsmith99


Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 2265 Location: S Glos, UK
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bob955i

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2165
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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#1 is magical.  |
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Spotmatic


Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 2102 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Tobias, those are my humble (and plastic) clogs
I think the lens' Ernostar roots, designed by Ludwig Bertele, are clearly visible in my test shots. I have googled on the Ernostar design and indeed the bokeh looks similar. Quite nice to have this lens in my collection! _________________ "Old Takumars never die; they just fade away"
Pentax K-7 + Pentax 645 + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, Bessa II Apo-Lanthar and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - S-M-C Takumar 85mm f/1.8 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Komura 85mm f/1.4 - Accura Supertel Tc 1:1.9 f=85mm - Jupiter-9 2/85 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 75mm f/1.5 Biotar - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical - Enna München Ennalyt 85mm f/1.5 - Olympus Zuiko Auto-T MC 85mm f/2 |
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Jieffe


Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 661 Location: Brugelette, Belgium
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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#1 for me too. So cute model and nice lens  _________________ The gear I use : Pentax K200D & Samsung GX1s, a few Tamron, Pentax, East German and Russian lenses.
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poilu

Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 5671 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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model is beautiful, light was perfect, portrait are great and even little 3D
the nature shots are not really usable for me |
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Uzay

Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Crocs? (shoes) picture is like 3D for me very nice.
I have a MF lens called Katana 135mm 2.8, i don't know which brand it's, might it be Sankyo? Does anybody know about this lens? |
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patrickh

Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 6239 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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The lens does have a certain amount of charm and the pictures are of course great.
Everyone wears crocs here in the US!
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D70 Nikon D200 Canon 40D
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 135/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 80/5.6, 80/4S, 100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6 |
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Arkku


Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 462 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The glow is very interesting. Bokeh is not the best possible, but it has certain “vintage” charm. At least this lens has unique character. |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10440 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I just love this glow! Excellent!
This gives so much more to a picture than absolute sharpness.
The bokeh is good, not perfect, but the lens handles even the tricky parts in the bg well.
Fantastic new acquisition! _________________ "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
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my_photography

Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 896 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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The glow very nice. Bokeh in some of the photos very distracting though. _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna München Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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cledry


Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 142 Location: Orlando, FL USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The glow is special, I like the portraits, less so the flora. |
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