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djmike



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great example of Tak UV-test. Mikel/HK300, Thanks
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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dincsal




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3792422823_f1ca748d86.jp[/img]
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dincsal




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Test shots with my new toy Super-Takumar 1.4







above one is with Jupiter-9 2/85


Photos taken by manual lenses, my flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/32114877@N02/
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estudleon



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice lens!!

Excelents pics too.

Anybody knows a takumar 1,4/50 l/mm test in the net??
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.
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kuuan



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
Very nice lens!!

Excelents pics too.

Anybody knows a takumar 1,4/50 l/mm test in the net??


I know of 2 shootouts of various 50s:
http://www.pbase.com/carpents/nls
http://www.pbase.com/gummiebear/50mm_f14_shoot_out

and of a respected photographer ( Mike Johnston, publisher of 'The Online Photographer ) who calls it his favorite lens: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml

btw. I just renamed the thread from 'Super Takumar 50mm f1.4' which I had featured in my original post to 'S-M-C and Super Takumar 50mm f1.4' because later many samples taken with the S-M-C had followed. ( and I just noticed that I had posted too big photos, sorry for that )

Since I had received the S-M-C I hardly used the Super Tak because I preferred the pic taken with the S-M-C, but I am quite certain that one can not generalize the S-M-C being the better lens, very likely it is my copies - the Super Tak had some fungus which later was cleaned, the S-M-C is more yellow which I like!

S-M-C 50/1.4:

( many more in a set dedicated to photos taken with this lens: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/sets/72157605746644529/ )

best greetings,
andreas
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lenses M42: Fisheye Takumar 4/17 Auto Tak: 2/55 - 3.5/35 - 2.8/105 preset Tak: 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 Super Tak: 3.5/24 - 2/35 - 3.5/35 - 1.4/50 - 1.8/55 - 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 S.M.C. Tak: 3.5/28 - 2/35 - 1.4/ 50 - Macro 4/50 - 2.8/105 - 4/200 SMC Tak: 1.8/55mm Auto Yashinon-DX: 2.8/35 - 1.7/50 -2.8/ 135 Soligor preset: 2.8/25 - 3.5/180 - 70-220 f3.5 Macro other: Vivitar 3.5/17 ( Tokina ) - 1.9/35 ( Komine ) - Pancolar 1.8/50 - Jupiter 9 2/85 - Berolina 2.8/135 - Kominar 3.5/ 135 - Pentacon 2.8/135 elec. - Meyer 5.5/180 Tamron Adaptall 2.5/24 - 2.5/28 PK-mount: Mir 47K 2.5/20 - Pentax A 2.8/28 - Kiron 2.8/28 - Pentax M 1.4/50 - 2/50 - Osawa 3.8/75-150 macro F-mount fitting directly on Pentax: Nikkor 2.8/24 - 3.5/28 - 1.4/50 - Vivitar ( Kiron ) 24 f2 Cams: Pentax *istDs - Minolta A2 - FujiF31fd - Ricoh R3 - Pentax ME Super - Pentax SV - Minolta GX1 - Yashica TL-Super - Yashica CCN wide - Electro GL - Konica C35FD ( Auto S3 )
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/
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estudleon



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andreas, very much. Very usefull linx.

Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.
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BeritOlam




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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys....I'm a Takumar newbie (just picked up a Super-Tak 50mm for next to nothing at a rummage sale Cool Cool )

Everything is immaculate...except there's no lens cover. (It was rapped up in a box). Anyone know where I can pick up a front cover?

Love the lens! Very Happy Very Happy

Thanks,
Matt
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kuuan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeritOlam wrote:
Hey guys....I'm a Takumar newbie (just picked up a Super-Tak 50mm for next to nothing at a rummage sale Cool Cool )

Everything is immaculate...except there's no lens cover. (It was rapped up in a box). Anyone know where I can pick up a front cover?

Love the lens! Very Happy Very Happy

Thanks,
Matt


congrats, this is a great lens.
the original metal cap you may or may not find offered on ebay, but any 49mm cap will do
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lenses M42: Fisheye Takumar 4/17 Auto Tak: 2/55 - 3.5/35 - 2.8/105 preset Tak: 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 Super Tak: 3.5/24 - 2/35 - 3.5/35 - 1.4/50 - 1.8/55 - 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 S.M.C. Tak: 3.5/28 - 2/35 - 1.4/ 50 - Macro 4/50 - 2.8/105 - 4/200 SMC Tak: 1.8/55mm Auto Yashinon-DX: 2.8/35 - 1.7/50 -2.8/ 135 Soligor preset: 2.8/25 - 3.5/180 - 70-220 f3.5 Macro other: Vivitar 3.5/17 ( Tokina ) - 1.9/35 ( Komine ) - Pancolar 1.8/50 - Jupiter 9 2/85 - Berolina 2.8/135 - Kominar 3.5/ 135 - Pentacon 2.8/135 elec. - Meyer 5.5/180 Tamron Adaptall 2.5/24 - 2.5/28 PK-mount: Mir 47K 2.5/20 - Pentax A 2.8/28 - Kiron 2.8/28 - Pentax M 1.4/50 - 2/50 - Osawa 3.8/75-150 macro F-mount fitting directly on Pentax: Nikkor 2.8/24 - 3.5/28 - 1.4/50 - Vivitar ( Kiron ) 24 f2 Cams: Pentax *istDs - Minolta A2 - FujiF31fd - Ricoh R3 - Pentax ME Super - Pentax SV - Minolta GX1 - Yashica TL-Super - Yashica CCN wide - Electro GL - Konica C35FD ( Auto S3 )
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/
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djmike



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dincsal wrote:
Test shots with my new toy Super-Takumar 1.4

...


I love this tone. What camera you use?
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SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kuuan wrote:
the original metal cap you may or may not find offered on ebay, but any 49mm cap will do


That's what I needed to know. Wasn't sure if I needed a special 49mm cap. Thanks, kuuan! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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kuuan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeritOlam wrote:

That's what I needed to know.


happy to hear that!

the original metal cap may look cool but it only stays on with friction


sorry for my insufficient english, I hope I can make this clear:
the most useful generic model 'squeezes' from two points from the 'inside' of the cap which is better than one which squeezes from two points at the outer ring of the cap because it can be put / removed even with a hood mounted. It looks like this:


best regards,
Andreas
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lenses M42: Fisheye Takumar 4/17 Auto Tak: 2/55 - 3.5/35 - 2.8/105 preset Tak: 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 Super Tak: 3.5/24 - 2/35 - 3.5/35 - 1.4/50 - 1.8/55 - 2.8/105 - 3.5/135 S.M.C. Tak: 3.5/28 - 2/35 - 1.4/ 50 - Macro 4/50 - 2.8/105 - 4/200 SMC Tak: 1.8/55mm Auto Yashinon-DX: 2.8/35 - 1.7/50 -2.8/ 135 Soligor preset: 2.8/25 - 3.5/180 - 70-220 f3.5 Macro other: Vivitar 3.5/17 ( Tokina ) - 1.9/35 ( Komine ) - Pancolar 1.8/50 - Jupiter 9 2/85 - Berolina 2.8/135 - Kominar 3.5/ 135 - Pentacon 2.8/135 elec. - Meyer 5.5/180 Tamron Adaptall 2.5/24 - 2.5/28 PK-mount: Mir 47K 2.5/20 - Pentax A 2.8/28 - Kiron 2.8/28 - Pentax M 1.4/50 - 2/50 - Osawa 3.8/75-150 macro F-mount fitting directly on Pentax: Nikkor 2.8/24 - 3.5/28 - 1.4/50 - Vivitar ( Kiron ) 24 f2 Cams: Pentax *istDs - Minolta A2 - FujiF31fd - Ricoh R3 - Pentax ME Super - Pentax SV - Minolta GX1 - Yashica TL-Super - Yashica CCN wide - Electro GL - Konica C35FD ( Auto S3 )
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/
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estudleon



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1

The best option for me too.

Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.

RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, seems most Takumar lens cap I acquire have trouble staying on lens. Sometime I dont even use the lens cap and just be careful.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, I bought this lens without knowing about the radioactive element inside it. now I am wondering whether I should sell it again on eBay or keep it. the fact that I might be exposed to radiation while using it scares the heck out of me. does anybody know how much radiation the Super-Takumar 50 f1.4 really emits and what the "acceptable" amount of radiation in terms of health and safety is? I can't find anything that really helps on the internet it's usually either people making fun of it, people saying that it is not dangerous at all, and people saying the opposite... so I am confused. can anyone help me?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I an ME with a Nuclear Engineering minor. I have "some" connection with the industry.

1. It is not dangerous. It will not even register on a geiger counter. SOME radioactive lenses apparently will register, such as the famous Aero Ektar. Even so, its rather minor, and frankly anyones exposure to a lens would be very little. Its not going to be near you very much at all. Its not as if you will sleep with it under your pillow I think.

2. Natural background radiation varies so much around the earth, you would be surprised. Way, way more exposure range than any cumulative exposure from any lens, a factor of 4x from one place to another would not be unusual. If you are concerned, you should check whether your home is radioactive due to naturally occurring Radon gas (the biggest source) which depends on the local geology and the construction of your house, and b. the altitude at which you live; you want to be at sea-level to minimize it. And even with that, there has been no clear health effect found in differences in background radiation exposure. If anything, there is some support in the data for a BENEFIT from slightly higher background radiation (the hormesis effect).

3. Philosophically, I cannot understand why anyone would worry so much about very slight physical dangers. Life is for living, not preserving. We are all going to go, it doesn't matter all that much when it happens. Danger is good ! As Winston Churchill said, "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result. " And thats a true thing.

So take out your Takumar lens, and use it for art with perhaps, if you like, the thrill of the knowledge of its radioactive parts.
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