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Attila
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 Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Russian Start camera |
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I got this camera lens. I thought this is an Exakta lens and it won't fit into my Exakta adapter 
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/vintage/start.html
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007
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Location: U.S.A.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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I've wanted a start (cmapm) for a very long time. The helios 44 that you have there was the only lens produced for it, at least on a mass scale. Beautiful lens, 12 blades right? You can get an adapter for m39 lenses (zenit)....but I'm not sure how the focus scale works out.
The mount is unique, there's no other camera that will accept it.
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35mm: zenit B + zenit 122 + praktica FX + sears (ricoh) TLS - chinon 2.8/28mm, mir 10A 3.5/28, pentacon 3.5/30, mir-1 2.8/37, mamiya/sekor 1.4/50, simlar 1.5/50 (ltm m39 - macro work), tessar 2.8/50, domiplan 2.8/50, industar 50-2 3.5/50, takumar 2/55, sears 1.4/55, helios 44-2 2/58, hanimex macro zoom 3.5/28-80, tair 11A 2.8/135, jupiter 21m 4/200
Med Format: Ikoflex II - triotar 3.5/75
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I have this kind of Helios with M42 mount , that lens is superb quality lens. I'd like to get with Exakta mount one, this one is unfortunately unusable to me.
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Scotland
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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@ Attila:
What about the CZJ Biotar 2/58 - the Helios 44 is a Russian copy?
Unless they're a bit different IQ wise. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 16502
Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have both lens, perhaps same, I didn't see significant difference.
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Location: Russia Moscow
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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It is an objective from the russian camera Start. Adapters to it are not present.
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Kiev-15 (Mir-20A, Mir-1A, Helios-65, Helios-81, Jupiter-9A, Jupiter-11A, Granit-11, adapter M39+Industar-61LZ/39mm),
Pentax MF: KX, ME Super SE (M28/2.8, M40/2.8, K55/1.8, M100/2.8, M150/3.5),
Pentax AF: Z-5p, K100D (FA50/1.4, F28-80, FA80-320)
Konica-35v, Kiev-4/J-8/J-12
Scaner Nikon LS-2000
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Attila
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Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yes , now I know I love this old Russian lenses.
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Kamerer
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Location: Russia Moscow
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Yes , now I know I love this old Russian lenses. |
Never late to buy to it body. 
http://www.molotok.ru/item387266846_start_polnostyu_ispravnyj_otlichnoe_sostoyanie.html
http://www.molotok.ru/item386979682_start_1961g_v_s_prizmoj_.html
http://www.molotok.ru/item389175194_fotoapparat_start.html
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Kiev-15 (Mir-20A, Mir-1A, Helios-65, Helios-81, Jupiter-9A, Jupiter-11A, Granit-11, adapter M39+Industar-61LZ/39mm),
Pentax MF: KX, ME Super SE (M28/2.8, M40/2.8, K55/1.8, M100/2.8, M150/3.5),
Pentax AF: Z-5p, K100D (FA50/1.4, F28-80, FA80-320)
Konica-35v, Kiev-4/J-8/J-12
Scaner Nikon LS-2000
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 16502
Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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No,no lens only 
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF Skopar 10,5cm,Besa I Color Skopar 105mm,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Kamerer
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Location: Russia Moscow
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | No,no lens only |
Then it is possible to make of it a monocle.
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Kiev-15 (Mir-20A, Mir-1A, Helios-65, Helios-81, Jupiter-9A, Jupiter-11A, Granit-11, adapter M39+Industar-61LZ/39mm),
Pentax MF: KX, ME Super SE (M28/2.8, M40/2.8, K55/1.8, M100/2.8, M150/3.5),
Pentax AF: Z-5p, K100D (FA50/1.4, F28-80, FA80-320)
Konica-35v, Kiev-4/J-8/J-12
Scaner Nikon LS-2000
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey. |
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