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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: Russian 3M/6A 500mm f6.3 mirror |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Got one of these off ebay the other day and having great trouble mounting it on my Canon 10D. Lens had a Nikon adapter with it, but instead of an M42 T-Mount on the end it has a recessed 48.5mm plain spigot. Recent gift of a Pentax T-Mount adapter (thanks manual_focus_g ) co-incidentally has the same size insert so a combination of that and a K-mount to EOS adapter enabled me to fit it. Rotates a bit (rubbish EOS adapter ) but seems to give reasonable images. Thought you might like a look...
http://forums.dpreview.com/galleries/585006260/albums/3m-6a
I have questioned a few suppliers of EOS adapters to see if I can connect to its spigot directly and await replies. Anyone else got one of these? Heavy innit? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Huge beast I have it too and it has awesome performance , I think mine has M42 mount. _________________ -------------------------------
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
If you buy an eos t mount you should be able to seperate the outer ring with the 3 little screws and then screw it onto the spigot.
It's like a t mount but with one half of the mount always attached to the lens instead of unscrewing, I think the register distance is slightly different but you should still be able to get infinity focus.
My mto-11ca had the same thing, it seems any t mount can be disassembled and screwed into the spigot.
I think the zenitar fish eye also comes with this t mount like spigot. _________________ - Dave
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
fatdeeman wrote: |
If you buy an eos t mount you should be able to seperate the outer ring with the 3 little screws and then screw it onto the spigot.
It's like a t mount but with one half of the mount always attached to the lens instead of unscrewing, I think the register distance is slightly different but you should still be able to get infinity focus.
My mto-11ca had the same thing, it seems any t mount can be disassembled and screwed into the spigot.
I think the zenitar fish eye also comes with this t mount like spigot. |
You are undoubtedly right. The Pentax T-Mount adapter that ManualFocus_G gave me fitted the 3M exactly after I had taken out the M42 threaded insert.
Unfortunately, the EOS T-Mount adapter I have has a much larger diameter insert and so I can't use it directly. I am currently quizzing all the Hong Kong/China suppliers of EOS adapters to find one with the 48.5mm insert. Wish me luck.
Certainly seems quite sharp with the cobbled together setup I used to take the couple of test shots. But blimey it is heavy.
I really wanted it for moon shots etc, which is lucky, since it's definitely a tripod job |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Huge beast I have it too and it has awesome performance , I think mine has M42 mount. |
Thanks for that info. Glad I haven't bought a lemon Can;t wait to get it attached properly and find out what it can do. It's the only mirror I currently have. Do you find the doughnut bokeh a problem? Personally I don't find it too offensive. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
martyn_bannister wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Huge beast I have it too and it has awesome performance , I think mine has M42 mount. |
Thanks for that info. Glad I haven't bought a lemon Can;t wait to get it attached properly and find out what it can do. It's the only mirror I currently have. Do you find the doughnut bokeh a problem? Personally I don't find it too offensive. |
If subject fill full scene no bokeh problem I like mirror lens bokeh so no trouble from my site. Lens diameter can be a problem , I did try with flat front camera like Olympus E-300, E-1. It was impossible to mount on E-500 or Nikon D50. _________________ -------------------------------
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M. Valdemar
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 93
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: |
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M. Valdemar wrote:
Just leave the Nikon adapter on it, and get a Nikon to EOS adapter for it. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
M. Valdemar wrote: |
Just leave the Nikon adapter on it, and get a Nikon to EOS adapter for it. |
Yeah, thats what I might have to fall back on. I have ordered one, because it is going to be handy anyway.
I got given a pentax adapter that fitted and so I cobbled together a T-Mount to Pentax to EOS adapter to take the test shots. Unfortunately I have a rubbish Pentax to EOS adapter, hence the body could rotate about 20 deg
I think I have found the right T-Mount to EOS adapter and have ordered one of those too. If I have to fall back on the Nikon adapter, I just hope it works better than the rubbish pentax to EOS I've got
I'll get there in the end and hopefully post some properr shots..... |
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