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RSalles
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 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: Rollei Planar HFT 1.8 50mm |
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RSalles wrote:
Hi all,
I had serviced a Rollei Planar HFT 1.8 50mm last week.
Made some photos with this lens and had fallen in love immediately with its results - maybe you don't but its the fault of the available light and mine also,
So, here's the results:
Cheers,
Renato |
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RAART
Joined: 10 Oct 2012
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Location: Oakville, ON, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:00 am Post subject: |
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RAART wrote:
The last portrait picture is excellent. Perfect lens for pictures like those... Job well done.
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Camera: Pentax K3
FOR SALE:
Do you have Pentax-A or F or FA primes and like to trade?
Here is the list what I have to trade/sale:
Primes: - Kiron 28mm f2 (C/Y); Vivitar 28mm f2.5 Auto (FD); Minolta MD 50mm f2 (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 35mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3); Miranda Auto 135mm f2.8 EC (incl. adapter to m4/3);
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Paulius
Joined: 25 Nov 2014
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Location: Connecticut
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
Some 25 years ago I have purchase a used RolleySL35 with this lens for $100.-, shot a roll of BW film and fall in love with it, put my Nikons on the shell and got all Zeiss lenses for Rolley I can find on photo shows.
All lenses are on Digital Canons now working perfectly! Real Treasure.
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RSalles
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
| Paulius wrote: |
Some 25 years ago I have purchase a used RolleySL35 with this lens for $100.-, shot a roll of BW film and fall in love with it, put my Nikons on the shell and got all Zeiss lenses for Rolley, I can find on photo shows.
All lenses are on Digital Canons now working perfectly! Real Treasure. |
RAART,
Thank you!
Paulus,
Indeed, real treasures, the next one will be the 1.4/85 even if I have to wait for a good shape and price for that.
Cheers,
Renato |
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uddhava
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Nice shots!
I am thinking about buying this lens. Does it have any special characteristics that make it stand out from other 50mm lenses you have tried? |
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Paulius
Joined: 25 Nov 2014
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Location: Connecticut
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
Rolley Zeiss lenses were produced in West Germany and Singapore. Optically the same, but mechanically Singapore production is slightly simplified, some plastic parts introduced, contrary to all metal Germans. The problem with some Rolley lenses is sticky aperture, slow opening and closing, some times can't be closed enough. Difficult to cure, back glass block has to be removed and lifs should be cleaned up with Trichloretan, or today's less toxic substitute of it.
For the 85/1,4 it is magnificent lens, great for the portraits, but I'm using it also for landscapes and architecture.
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Paulius
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
There is another Rolley line, Rolleinar made by Mamya. I have 28/2,8, which is awful, and absolutely great 55/1,4. |
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GeorgeSalt
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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GeorgeSalt wrote:
| Paulius wrote: |
| There is another Rolley line, Rolleinar made by Mamya. I have 28/2,8, which is awful, and absolutely great 55/1,4. |
What's the problem with your Rolleinar 28/2.8?
I've recently picked one up for my QBM lens set and so far (viewed on screen) it looks like a good performer, although I've still to have shots printed for proper judgement. |
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Paulius
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
Have no idea, the images down to f11 are not sharp. I have the same problem with Nikkor 24mm, Vivitar 28mm and Sigma 18mm.
You have to use a high MP full frame Digital cameras to see the quality. |
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Gardener
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
| Paulius wrote: |
Rolley Zeiss lenses were produced in West Germany and Singapore. Optically the same, but mechanically Singapore production is slightly simplified, some plastic parts introduced, contrary to all metal Germans. The problem with some Rolley lenses is sticky aperture, slow opening and closing, some times can't be closed enough. Difficult to cure, back glass block has to be removed and lifs should be cleaned up with Trichloretan, or today's less toxic substitute of it.
For the 85/1,4 it is magnificent lens, great for the portraits, but I'm using it also for landscapes and architecture. |
It also helps a bit that the German version says Carl Zeiss  |
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Paulius
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
OK, OK! Carl Zeiss, not a Zeiss Jenna… |
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Paul A
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:29 am Post subject: 1.8 High Fidelity Transfer 50 vs T* 1.7 50mm Contax |
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Paul A wrote:
I have recently amassed a large assortment of 'popular' lenses and 12 or so of those are 50mm.
I simply read a lot of popular lens' threads and their high praise and then acquired the respective lenses.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the HFT made in Singapore was a better lens IQ-wise (maybe not build?).
So I found one. Made in Singapore. It's (glass) not even in pristine condition.
I had already acquired a Contax 1.7/50 AEJ. My brother-in-law (fellow camera guy) just very recently dropped off a Contax 1.7/50 MMJ.
my AEJ has very close to serial number as the MMJ so the AEJ is a later unit and the MMJ is an early production unit.
SO...with tripod and static objects I 'tested' the two Contax 1.7/50mm and found the results are very very same.
then i tested the HFT against both the Contaxs and it was quite easy for me to see the higher IQ from the HFT.
not scientific of course but easy for me to see better sharpness none the less.
i've already 'tested'; several of the most popular Taks, Yashica ML 2/50, Minolta MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, Hexanon 1.7/50, OM 1.8/50, FD 1.8/50, Helios 44-2m M44-4, 1.8/50 Zebra Pancolar, Pentacon MC auto 1.8/50, Pentacon auto 1.8/50, rikenon auto 1.4/55, Domiplan 2.8/50 and the digital 2/50 Zuiko and 1.8/45 micro Zuiko.
I have gotten rid of the 6 thorium lenses (3 taks, rikenon, zebra Pancolar, Hexanon 1.2/57).
I'm sure that the HFT is sharper than all the non-digital lenses* but i only tested at short distances and up to f/4-5.6.
Paul
I'd like to have a mint HFT 1.8/50mm to *use) keep forever. |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Paul and any other member,
Any thoughts with the Planar 1.4/85 HFT and Contax 1.4/85? I' really need a sharp fast lens for portraits, better if sharp at wide open, and even better if it's a MF lens,
Cheers,
Renato |
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Paulius
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
I have only Planar 85/1,4 HFT, can't compare. The lens is sharp wide open indeed. Has three leaf aperture. Great optically and mechanically. |
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RSalles
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:42 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Hi Paulus,
Do you have some pics to share? It would helpful to define a buying decision - what I know is the market had tagged the Rollei nearby 2X the 1.4/85 Contax version,
Thanks,
Renato |
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Paul A
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: sorry... |
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Paul A wrote:
| RSalles wrote: |
Paul and any other member,
Any thoughts with the Planar 1.4/85 HFT and Contax 1.4/85? I' really need a sharp fast lens for portraits, better if sharp at wide open, and even better if it's a MF lens,
Cheers,
Renato |
just the HFT 50 (for now).
i have an '86 40-2 which surprised me for sharpness. common opinion was the lens is kinda soft(of course at wide open and then some) but a few stops in it gets nicely sharpened up. i was not expecting it to be nicely sharp anywhere up to diffraction. i bought it for wide open bokeh/swirlies and wouldn't use it much for else as i have that FL covered by digital/ligher/sharper. |
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RSalles
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Paul,
I thought about the Helios 40-2 also but it would drive me back to the same issues regarding sharpness I came across with the J-9 I already have.
Best,
Renato |
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
| RSalles wrote: |
Hi Paulus,
Do you have some pics to share? It would helpful to define a buying decision - what I know is the market had tagged the Rollei nearby 2X the 1.4/85 Contax version,
Thanks,
Renato |
Here are some photos taken from window moment ago starting from f1,4 to f22, scipping f2,5.
Camera 5D mark II, lens CZ 85/1,4 HFT Rolley.
f1,4 - Sharp, but little bit hazy details, could be good for portraits.
Fragment, full pixels:
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
f2
Fragment' full pixel:
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
f5,6
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
f8
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
I can skip the f11 and f16, only a depth of field is increasing on this f-stops, the IQ of image does not change.
The last one is f22, the IQ is still OK, only the camera shacked on slow speed .
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RSalles
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Thanks Paul,
At Wide Open we can see it's limits, lens being able to be used at this aperture in close-up shots and when extreme bokeh is needed. At f2 it's beginning to be completely usable - not that sharp as compared to f5.6 but much better sharpness then at WO. Closed from f2 to smaller f-stops the sharpness curve becomes less pronounced, visible only at large magnifications.
So, as Attila hate this kind of performance tests and prefers to use the lens in a real world situation, we have to wait for the next member who own the Contax 1.4/85 to compare...
Cheers,
Renato |
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Paulius
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
Only the best of my lenses shows this "sharp haziness" on WO, such as Retina Schneiders, Kilfitt 40mm, all Rolley C.Zeisses, Ektars and some DDR glass.
I like this effect.
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RSalles
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Paul,
Agree, it's a effect visible only wide-open, not always desirable but useful for certain situations. I don't care to much for a full of sharpness at wide open but I like when the lens has a 3 dimensional look even at that aperture, a pleasant bokeh and if possible certain swirl,
Cheers,
Renato |
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