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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Rollei Ortho 25 - first roll Reply with quote

Arrived yesterday and I could'nt resist to expose and develop the first roll Wink
Again, camera EOS 50E, fully manual.
I'm impressed by the fine grain and the sharpness (hopefully it's there). Not easy doing handheld shots with ISO25 and the Makro-Planar.

Developed in Rollei RHS for five minutes. "Scanned" by EOS 5D on bellow.
The film layer is transparent, which is a nice feature for scanning.
One note, for portrait work, I wouldn't recommend the Ortho25 for female models, I did not get any permission to show a picture Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a winner to me Sandy.
I like these Rollei/Maco films with no emulsion base (transparent).
Try the Rollei IR also. It's great exposed without a filter on the lens and exposed at ISO200.
Very nice for Portraits..........just don't use the MacroPlanar Wink


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andy, yes, I think it's a winner.

Rollei IR400 is already ordered Wink I think I fell in love with Maco.

Erm, the unpublished portrait was taken with the Planar 1.2/85 Embarassed
No way, the Ortho25 is too strong, perhaps in combination with the RHS developer, maybe a low contrast developer might work better.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Rollei Ortho 25 - first roll Reply with quote

For showing good details this films seems perfect, so i understand why for portraits its maybe not the best... the rendition reminds me of Agfa APX film, i think they have merged or something

The devlopment is very good, which "shaking" method do you proceed ? this might have effect on the final result as well. Whose are great by the way, especially the cat.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice B&W, cats are my preferred Smile


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works for me - very well actually!!

Have you ever tried Gigabitfilm?
http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/menu.htm
extremely fine grain and highest resolution -
Zeiss tested it once when they made shots to
show the >400lpm performance of the Z-Series
25mm (no other film could do that...)


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks friends!

Hexi, shaking was first 30" permanent, but not frantic, then every 30" only one agitation. Deverloper exactly measured at 19C, but the darkroom was beyond 30C.
The Agfa APX is now available as Rollei Retro 100, I'll try this one soon, one rolls costs 1.50 Euro, a very decent price.

Orio, you are welcome! Wink




Thank you Klaus, sounds very interesting, but I'm very sure that my limiting device would be the 5D on the bellow then. Live-View would be also very nice for bellow-scanning.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="
Have you ever tried Gigabitfilm?
http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/menu.htm
extremely fine grain and highest resolution -
Zeiss tested it once when they made shots to
show the >400lpm performance of the Z-Series
25mm (no other film could do that...)[/quote]

Klaus,

I met Detlef Ludwig back in 1994; very interesting character!


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent !!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seele wrote:
[quote="
Have you ever tried Gigabitfilm?
http://www.gigabitfilm.de/html/english/menu.htm
extremely fine grain and highest resolution -
Zeiss tested it once when they made shots to
show the >400lpm performance of the Z-Series
25mm (no other film could do that...)


Klaus,

I met Detlef Ludwig back in 1994; very interesting character![/quote]

You did??? Must have been a great conversation - I'm sure!!

Have you vere tested his film??


PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw. this is what Zeiss reported about their tests:

Kodak Supra 800: 80 lp/mm
Maco Ortho PO 100: 80 lp/mm
Kodak Tech Pan: 140 lp/mm
Kodak Supra 400: 100 lp/mm
Fuji Neopan Acros 100: 160 lp/mm
Kodak Farbwelt 100: 160 lp/mm
Kodak Farbwelt 400: 160 lp/mm
Fujichrome Velvia 100 F: 170 lp/mm
Gigabitfilm: 400 lp/mm


PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
Seele wrote:


I met Detlef Ludwig back in 1994; very interesting character!


You did??? Must have been a great conversation - I'm sure!!

Have you vere tested his film??


That was well before he started the Gigabit business, But at the time he was well into investigating how to push the boundary of photography further than ever before.

The idea of Gigabitfilm is not new, however; for a long time various thin emulsion, high-contrast films had been used for general photography, paired with a soft-working developer. Some decades ago H&W offered that in the US, ahd Kodak's Technical Pan was also quite similar. There were those who used the Agfa Copex and Paterson Acuspecial combination to good effect as well, and I still have a stash of Agfa Ortho, quite well hidden Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! These are really nice results! But not only the film and the lens are good, the photographer is also very talented!


PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very striking. I'd not bothered with Ortho as I expected it to be too contrasty, but you show it's quite usable.
Love the pics on your site, by the way.

@ Klaus
I found this recently, and wonder if it's the same film you mention under a different name. I think I'll try a roll or two sometime soon, when I order some 9x12s from lumiere.
http://www.lumiere-shop.de/product_info.php/info/p3924_ADOX--CMS-20--135-36.html


PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I've heard that these is the same film than Gigabit. No proof found so far ...


PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Karsten & Dave! Wink


The Adox CMS looks really interesting, and the price isn't bad. I'll grab some rolls, when I'm in Berlin next week, found a store in the middle of Berlin. Hopefully they have some rolls in stock Wink