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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: Rolf, you made me think today ... |
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tobbsman wrote:
Rolf showed a landscape photograph today
(from his todays morning walk) which made me think.
It was done at f5.6 ... the reflections in the lake
got a nice soft bokeh-touch which I liked a lot
I realized I heardly ever use wide appertures
for landscapes, it's just a stupid habbit.
Further I thought how to combine wide
appertures use with panorama technic to
reach results which would not be possible with
standard wide angle primes.
shortly: my idea was to take a portrait lens with a
very wide apperture. Another need: it has to be
razorsharp at it's open position, though still useable
for landscape purposes wide open. all the frames
of the pano are shot wide open. the scene should
be captured in a normal windeangle view.
The outcome is a (about) 20mm shot with a
apperture wich is normally not possible,
cause of lens-apperture-limitations and
without lens distortions.
here's the result of my evenings-walk from today ...
- lens: SMC Tak 50/1.4
- all frames ( 8 ) of the pano shot wide open
I can imagine that the effect would be much bigger
if I would have gone closer to the trees and if Pentax
would have finally a fullframe camera
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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spleenone
 Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1135 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
VOU! I must admit my envy coz I would like to shot something like this but in my surroundings is flat country
Beauty. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29658 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Curious, a lot of people seems to be discovering this technique these days.
Another member came to this discovery some days ago. Maybe the tutorial published some days ago on Facebook's Photoshop page has something to do with it?
Your pano are always the top of what we see on this forum, Tobbsman, but in this case, I don't like much the blurred trees in the foreground. The technique may prove still useful sometimes for landscapes, but maybe with different subjects, where the blurred objects are better lit and not so prominent to occupy 1/3rd of the picture space. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nikos
 Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1170 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
I think the biggest advantage of using a standard lens to
shoot the equivalent angle of a wide lens, is that you get
the perspective of the normal lens.
You can compress the distance and put emphasis on the distant objects.
And minimize distortion of course.
The following panorama (3 rows by 3 cols) was shot at 70mm.
Had I used a 24mm lens, the Acropolis would be almost invisible.
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Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
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Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
thanks for the reactions !
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| Another member came to this discovery some days ago. Maybe the tutorial published some days ago on Facebook's Photoshop page has something to do with it? |
@Orio
that's funny and interesting same time ... do you have links? (i dont have an facebook account) i am curious how other people use this technic and see their open-apperture-panorama-results ...
@nkanellopoulos
I think the biggest advantage of using a standard lens to
shoot the equivalent angle of a wide lens, is that you get
the perspective of the normal lens
exactly!
but another big advantage not to forget:
because of a 1.4 apperture I could shoot in this evening light conditions with ISO100 and a very safe shutter speed. Concerning panorama shooting a safe shutter speed is a real need.
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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Himself
 Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3216 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Tobias, that landscape around you is breathtaking! _________________ Moderator Himself |
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timo832000
 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
Hi Tobbsman it`s an interesting idea to use the bokeh pano tec to capture a landscape. I was playing with this on the last days too but I doscovered the mentioned facebook page after I made my first tests.
Here is the thread I started a few days ago:
http://forum.mflenses.com/how-to-get-an-interesting-look-and-shallow-dof-t32507.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/vintage-porsche-bokeh-pano-t32960.html
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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
hey thanks timo for the links, ... cool experiment with the women portrait, looks interresting.
I will for sure make more experiments on large-scale landscapes.
Bokeh pano is great for near objects, but with landscape scenes it could probably give a lot new to discover. Especially with the idea of using them very open. Unfortunately my SMC 50/1.2 is too soft to use for landscapes wide open, so the only lens in my possession is the 50/1.4 which gives some bokeh too and wich is really sharp wide open.
here some "normal" bokeh panos which I made last year (with close objects though, or just a tele lens):
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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ylyad
 Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 476 Location: Zentralschweiz
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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ylyad wrote:
That last one is amazing! And I love your place  _________________
Camera: Fuji X-E2, Fuji X100T
MF: Canon nFD 50/1.4, Canon nFD 100/2.8, Tokina RMC 135/2.8
Tamron SP 24-48/3.5-3.8
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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:00 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
thanks ylyad
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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pich900
 Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1760 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
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That last one is amazing! And I love your place  |
+1
I would like to see this picture in a higher resolution .....
and what a beautifull place to live!!!! _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
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kuuan
 Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4588 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
super photos Tobias,
the last one is simply WOW _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:58 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
hoi pascal
here it is with higher resolution:
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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pich900
 Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1760 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Thanks Tobias, it shoud be an amazing poster to set on the wall ....
I would like to make a reservation in this house for my next vacation, could you arrange that for me ...... _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
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rpo83
 Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 276 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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rpo83 wrote:
Stunning shot Tobias,
I have recently taken landscape shots with the foreground in focus and the distance OOF, but i had never thought about doing a pano with this technique! You have given me something new to try out..  _________________ Cheers
Steve
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Elmarit R 1:2.8/16mm, Elmarit R 1:2.8/28mm, Macro Elmarit R 1:2.8/60mm, Macro Elmar R 1:4/100 Bellows, APO Telyt R 1:3.4/180mm, Telyt R 1 :4/250mm, Vario Elmar R 1:4/35-70mm ROM, Vario Elmar R 1:4.5/75-200 Novoflex... Noflexar 1:38/200mm
M42... Carl Zeiss... Pancolar 1:1.8/80, Asahi Pentax... Super Takumar 1:3.5/35mm, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50mm, Jupiter... 1:2/85mm, Pentacon... 1:2.8/135mm MC,
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Nikos
 Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1170 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
The panorama with the flowers (daisies?) close-up is exciting!
Tobias, sooner or later, I will pay you a visit... There is no escape!
It seems you are a great hiker. You can see the backpack in my avatar... _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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tobbsman
 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2591 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
@pich900
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I would like to make a reservation in this house for my next vacation, could you arrange that for me
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@nkanellopoulos
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Tobias, sooner or later, I will pay you a visit... There is no escape!
It seems you are a great hiker. You can see the backpack in my avatar... |
Seems we could make a forum-meeting here
Yes I do a lot of hiking, I know lots of great tours here, you should buy a ticket then
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
Visit my Asahi and Zeiss MF lens samples database ! |
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dude163
 Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 736 Location: New Brunswick , Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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dude163 wrote:
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hoi pascal
here it is with higher resolution:
Cheers
Tobias |
Awesome shot Tobias! _________________ Stormtrooper white Pentax K-X m42 adapter
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Taks : ST 28mm f3.5 , ST 35mm f3.5, SMC 50mm f1.4 , ST 55mm f2 , SMC 135 f 3.5 , ST 200 f 4
CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 1954 model
Leica m8u : Rigid cron 50/2 Elmar 90/4 Elmarit 135/2.8 Jupiter8 50/2 Serenar 85/2
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