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RMC Tokina 17mm F3.5
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote:
I thought this lens had really bad distortion and for that reason people preferred the Flek?

For a UWA, I don't mind as I make creative use of perspective distortion.



@agent_cooper: I don't know for sure, but I do know that this has been the difference between other Tokina lenses and the same lenses built for Vivitar, e.g., the "Bokina" the Tokina 90mm f/2.8 macro. The Vivitar 90mm f/2.8 macro is built by Tokina but the coatings are different, and by all accounts I've read, the Tokina coatings are superior to those they used on the Vivitar. So this might be a justification for going with the Tokina instead of the Vivitar in this case. But if you ask me, I'd say it's a minor one.


sounds weird, but I do not want a better coating since i am looking for tremendous iris ghosts and flare with a wideangle lens. Vivitar is known for relatively low flare resistance. Does anybody else recommend a wideangle which is prone to §bautiful" flare??


PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, shoot, if flare is what you're after, then I'd recommend one of the cheapo UW 19-35mm 1:3.5-4.5 zooms. I've seen them in Phoenix and Cosina brands. Search eBay for them and you'll get hits. They're plenty cheap, and may deliver the sort of flare you're looking for.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
I have the Vivitar 17/3.5, made by Tokina, and I love mine. Unfortunately it's in Canon FD mount. I'd like to find another 17mm in Nikon mount, but all the ones I see on eBay go for a lot these days.

I managed to buy for 45 E a Vivitar version of this lens in FD mount .
Your pictures make me think that it's going to be a good 26mm on my NEX3 and my widest lens for a while. I am waiting for the adaptor.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If anybody plans on selling his example (Nikon mount) I d gladly take contact with him Smile


PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikon versions are the most expensive ones. There are a few on ebay right now btw.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Crazy I found this thread. I bought this lens, and took a gamble. really not a lot of people using this lens, so not a bunch on info out there. At the time when I bought this lens, I had an OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8. I had the 24mm 2.0 that was superb, and the 24mm 2.8 was just as good.

I was told by some people over at FredMiranda (on the alt forums) that the Tokina wouldn't be nearly as good as the OM. Well once I took ownership of this lens in late April, I sold the Zuiko. The Tokina I have is the same one as stated here. It is in NIKON mount, and I use it on my Canon 1Ds via a fotodiox Nikon>EOS adapter. I really like this lens!

here is a shot, taken last Friday.



more samples, if interested, can be found at the following sites:

http://dustingentadventures.blogspot.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Such a beautiful picture! Welcome!


PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welcome and indeed... The 17mm f/3.5 RMC Tokina is way better than many tend to believe. For instance the 20mm f/2.8 Flektogon is definitely worse (especially in the corners). The Flektogon may have slightly better colors though.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lovely image!
The best images from this thread should go into the "Best of lenses" gallery also!


PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys:) I absolutely LOVE this lens! Here is one I just worked on. This was taken on the Washington side of the Columbia River Gorge a few weeks ago.



PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Beautiful!!
But let me add, that although I'm sure the lens is great, here we are mostly seeing a very skilled photographer!


PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Orio, that is too kind!

Here is one taken of Proxy Falls a month or so ago.



PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow! Shocked So many amazing pictures! Thank you!


PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welcome, Dustin! Your outstanding photography really shows off this lens well. I am very impressed by its corner sharpness. And your 1Ds being a full frame camera, we're getting to see the actual edges. I had mentioned above that I own the Vivtar-labeled version of this lens, but mine's in Canon FD mount. So far I've taken some photos with Ektar 100 and Velvia 50 using this lens, but the subject matter was limited, and IMO, not a very thorough test of the lens's capabilities. I too would like to get one eventually in Nikon mount so I can use it on both my Nikon film cameras and my EOS digital. Seeing your photos further confirms my reasons for wanting it.

Here's a pic I took with mine using a Canon F-1 and Ektar 100. Scanned on an Epson 4990:



If you look closely at the bottom corners in the above photo, especially the bottom left, it does appear to be soft at the very corners. I don't recall what the aperture setting was that day. Overcast with ISO 100 film, though, it probably wasn't stopped down very far.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks everyone for the too kind of words! this lens i got way lucky on. i heard the nikon mount version was the best, but didn't realize it was a Nikon mount until i received it, as the ebay auction wasn't very clear - but i am glad!

most my shots are at f/16. The lens is really well built as well - but that is expected as it is from the "film era". Only thing i wish i had was the lens hood, which i have heard are hard to come by.

nice images in here as well!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
My Vivitar flavor of this lens has a hood of sorts built in -- one of the few differences between the two lenses. But it's barely even there at all. I've just finished searching through my lenses and can't seem to find my Viv, so I can't state what the filter size is -- 72mm? 77mm? Anyway, a tulip-style hood for a lens in that general focal range should work.

Well, now I'm off to ponder where I've mislaid that lens. Shocked


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems a few others have discovered this gem of a lens. I have one in AR mount and it is my favourite lens for use on the NEX, I mostly shoot landscapes and find the perspective this lens gives to be perfect for that.

Two of my friends have now bought copies of this lens because they liked my copy so much. I also have the AT-X version in Canon EF mount, it is exactly the same optically imho.

Some of my recent shots with my copy on NEX-3, all fully stopped down on a tripod because I like max dof for landscapes.













PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Only thing i wish i had was the lens hood, which i have heard are hard to come by.


I was lucky, thanx ro a member here, from whom i bought it...
#1

#2


it looks great with this hood, made of rubber, i think it would look sweet on a small mirrorless cam.

Tomas


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
beautiful images!



Dustin Gent wrote:
thanks everyone for the too kind of words! this lens i got way lucky on. i heard the nikon mount version was the Only thing i wish i had was the lens hood, which i have heard are hard to come by.


there is one.. it's not very cheap but maybe you are still interested:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310355245050


tomasg wrote:
i think it would look sweet on a small mirrorless cam.


yes it does, I should make a photo mounted on a NEX Smile


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These fascinating pictures did force me to buy this lens Embarassed I will pick it up mine tomorrow, it has Nikon mount.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOL! Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tedat wrote:
beautiful images!
tomasg wrote:
i think it would look sweet on a small mirrorless cam.


yes it does, I should make a photo mounted on a NEX Smile



there it is:



PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seeing mounted a lens of which i know the size, really gives me the idea how small the NEX is (never saw one in real life Rolling Eyes ) or how big the D700 is. Very nice product picture!

Tomas


PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the suggestions on the lens hood! I haven't been out to shoot in 4 days (seems like forever), but am heading out in the snow this weekend. For now, here is another shot, taken last Friday in the POURING rain (we are supposed to get 4 inches of rain here in Portland today)



PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just awesome picture again Dustin!


My RMC 17mm with Nikon mount on my desk Wink pretty compact looks like a faster 50mm lens.
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