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Siguy
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: Replace light seals before selling a camera? |
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Siguy wrote:
Most vintage cameras have bad light seals. Most people who know old cameras seem to know this. But I've also noticed that online listings almost never note the condition of the light seals, which would imply that most buyers don't consider it when buying a camera, even though it's often a necessary repair. So is it worth it to go through the extra trouble of replacing them when you sell a vintage camera? Can "new light seals" be worked into the price, or is a waste of time? |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I think both "new light seals" and "film tested" can be worked into the price; especially "film tested."
Probably not worth much more to anybody who has replaced light seals before; replacing light seals is so easy... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I don't think it's necessary to replace the seals, but reporting that it needs new seals implies you know about cameras and you've
checked this one over thoroughly. If it has any other faults, scratches, dents etc always describe them thoroughly and give a detailed
picture if you can. I'd always prefer to buy from a seller who is patently honest and knows what he's talking about - so much better than
someone who says "I don't know a lot about cameras".
Why not make an offer in the description to replace the seals if the buyer wishes, as there might be people who'd prefer to do it
themselves. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5027 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
well, it's a culture thing
In Finland you paint a rental apartement when you move into it; in Germany when you move out.
(I think?) _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4747 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
...Why not make an offer in the description to replace the seals if the buyer wishes, as there might be people who'd prefer to do it
themselves. |
I do this when necessary and only once had the offer taken up. Or offer a piece of light seal material free with it. It wont add to the value but it will inspire confidence that they are dealing with an expert.
On the subject of "I don't know much about cameras" I have had some great deals based on blurred photos and vague descriptions. I picked up a couple of lenses, a Sigma 80-200 and a 300mm Canon FD fit in mint condition, caps, cases everything both for £10 post paid! And more than a few period cameras in mint condition for less than £10. Yes I've wasted my money too - but bidding can be a gamble sometimes. Accept the losses. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Siguy
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Siguy wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
I don't think it's necessary to replace the seals, but reporting that it needs new seals implies you know about cameras and you've
checked this one over thoroughly. If it has any other faults, scratches, dents etc always describe them thoroughly and give a detailed
picture if you can. I'd always prefer to buy from a seller who is patently honest and knows what he's talking about - so much better than
someone who says "I don't know a lot about cameras".
Why not make an offer in the description to replace the seals if the buyer wishes, as there might be people who'd prefer to do it
themselves. |
The only issue I see with this is that from the perspective of a buyer who isn't particularly knowledgeable about cameras, seeing an ad that says "bad light seals" might make them assume that's only a problem if stated. i.e. they then see another ad that doesn't mention the condition of the light seals, and assume that means the light seals are fine. |
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Kabizm
Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 11 Location: Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Kabizm wrote:
When i wanted to buy an Olympus Trip, i did a little research and it says most of the light seals on these perish. When i bought one eventually i replaced the light seals for a couple of £ just for piece of mind, just so i knew i wouldn't be wasting a £5 roll of film. _________________ D600,Helios 44 58/2,Helios 44-2 58/2, Pentacon 29mm 2.8,Super Tak 35mm 3.5 (broken) Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar Zebra 50mm 2.8, Super Tak 55mm F/2, Pentacon 135mm 2.8 Preset (Bokeh Monster) |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7775 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I always replace bad seals, and then state that they are changed when I'm selling. I cut the seals from a sheet, and I can do a SLR in about 1/2 hour, so it's very cheap to just do it. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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