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 Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Question about FED-2 magazine to hold film |
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Jesito wrote:
I've been reading the manual that talks about the "magazine" to hold the film... I'm wondering if a standar 35mm film could be used. Mine came without any "magazine" for this purpose.
Thanks in advance.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I guess that you can use every normal 35mm film roll.
(But I do not have a FED-2.)
Perhaps this helps:
http://mattdentonphoto.com/images/FED-2_manual.pdf
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LucisPictor wrote:
Ahmm, is that the manual you were referring to?
I guess they mean with "film magazine" a kind of reusable roll for the Russian 35mm film that had a slightly wider emulsion than modern (Western) film or for professionals who buy their films in "metres". 
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| LucisPictor wrote: |
Ahmm, is that the manual you were referring to?
I guess they mean with "film magazine" a kind of reusable roll for the Russian 35mm film that had a slightly wider emulsion than modern (Western) film or for professionals who buy their films in "metres". |
Ok, I'll try to put some standard film in, and use the SIXON meter for getting the light measured....
Thanks!
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Jesito
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| niblue wrote: |
| My old rangefinder (an Aries IIIC) also talks about their film cartridge in the manual however a normal 35mm film seems to work just fine in it. |
Okay, thanks!!
Now the second question....
What about ISO settings for the film?
I see no ISO knob at all...
I plan to use ISO 200 colour film to try it.
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jesito,
Open up the owner's manual that Carsten posted above (it's also posted
in my FED thread) and it will be #21 film type reminder (top knob on
the right hand side).
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Jesito wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Jesito,
Open up the owner's manual that Carsten posted above (it's also posted
in my FED thread) and it will be #21 film type reminder (top knob on
the right hand side).
Bill |
Hi Bill, thanks for your answer. I noticed it, but I don't understand the relationship among the know posit?ions and the sensibility of film...
The manual says there are three kind of films: "daylight colour, Tungsten colour and B&W". And later on says: "Marks without figures correspond to GOST speeds 32, 65, 130 units".
This is kinda chinese for me 
Best regards,
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peterqd wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
The manual says there are three kind of films: "daylight colour, Tungsten colour and B&W". And later on says: "Marks without figures correspond to GOST speeds 32, 65, 130 units".
This is kinda chinese for me
Best regards,
Jes. |
FILM SPEED
CONVERSION TABLE
GOST ISO DIN
11 12 120
22 25 150
28 32 160
56 64 190
90 100 210
110 125 220
140 180 230
180 200 240
360 400 270
560 650 290
720 800 300
900 1000 310
1125 1250 320
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
What is GOST?
Never heard of it.
I know well the DIN scale because when I photographed with my father's Super Ikonta that is what I used.
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peterqd wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
What is GOST?
Never heard of it.
I know well the DIN scale because when I photographed with my father's Super Ikonta that is what I used. |
From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_speed
GOST (Russian: ГОСТ) is a pre-1987 linear standard used in the former Eastern Bloc. It was almost, but not quite identical to the ASA standard. After 1987 the GOST scale was aligned to the ISO scale. GOST markings are only found on pre-1987 photographic equipment (film, cameras, lightmeters, etc.) of Eastern Bloc manufacture.
I've never seen any GOST-rated film, but I remember coming across GOST years ago when I had the Zenit and we were using ASA numbers. I still find myself saying ASA instead of that new-fangled ISO stuff.  |
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Orio wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
| I still find myself saying ASA instead of that new-fangled ISO stuff. |
Well, my mother keeps going to the photo shop for me asking " a roll of 21 DIN B&W film, please" ! 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
| Jesito wrote: |
The manual says there are three kind of films: "daylight colour, Tungsten colour and B&W". And later on says: "Marks without figures correspond to GOST speeds 32, 65, 130 units".
This is kinda chinese for me
Best regards,
Jes. |
FILM SPEED
CONVERSION TABLE
GOST ISO DIN
11 12 120
22 25 150
28 32 160
56 64 190
90 100 210
110 125 220
140 180 230
180 200 240
360 400 270
560 650 290
720 800 300
900 1000 310
1125 1250 320
2880 3200 360 |
Great!!!!... thanks a lot, Peter, no idea of what GOST was before!.
But ISOs are without the trailing zero, aren't they?. (21 DIN = 100ASA).
Now is time to put the first roll in...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Yes, I copied this from a website and I think they used zeros instead of the symbol for degrees: ° (Alt+0176)
This is a better table from the Wiki site:
ASA/ISO - DIN - GOST
6 9° -
8 10° -
10 11° -
12 12° 11
16 13° 11
20 14° 16
25 15° 22
32 16° 22
40 17° 32
50 18° 45
64 19° 45
80 20° 65
100 21° 90
125 22° 90
160 23° 130
200 24° 180
250 25° 180
320 26° 250
400 27° 350
500 28° 350
640 29° 560
800 30° 700
1000 31° 700
1250 32° -
1600 33° 1400–1440
2000 34° -
2500 35° -
3200 36° 2800–2880
4000 37° -
5000 38° -
6400 39° - |
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Jesito wrote:
Hi Peter,
Thanks again!.
Carefully copied and pasted to my Palm thing...
Now is part of my daily luggage.
Best regards,
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